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Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby curzlgt » Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:54 pm

Story : http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/12/blizzard-rep-re.html

A 17-year-old World of Warcraft fan from Ohio found himself in police custody recently after threatening to commit suicide while speaking to a representative for the game, reports the Middletown Journal.

During an online conversation with a representative from Blizzard Entertainment, the unnamed teen said "he was suicidal and that the game is the only thing he has to live for." The representative subsequently contacted local police who, along with paramedics, responded to the claim.

The police report has the teen saying the threat was a joke "to try to get what he wanted for the game." He was later released into the custody of his father.

Though the article offers no word on what legal ramifications the boy may face for his threat, it's important to note that, regardless of the psychosocial implications of criminalizing such things, threats of suicide are a first-degree misdemeanor in Ohio.



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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby Paladwyn » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:50 pm

People do need to be responsible for what they say... "It was just a joke!" ..was it? How would the rep feel if he did treat it as such and they kid DID kill himself? Would be bitched at by everybody for not reporting the situation...
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby Downloader » Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:01 am

threats of suicide are a first-degree misdemeanor in Ohio.


How the fuck is arresting someone going to make them not want to commit suicide? Also making it an offense to voice your intentions is only going to silence the people who would otherwise voice it and get the help they so desperatly need? The rep did the right thing, if the kid was trying to be manipulative I hope his father deletes all his characters, uninstals the game and removes his PC from his possession.
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby Your_Mentor » Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:52 am

The kid endlessly plays World of Warcraft.. The REP pretty much knew the kid had NO LIFE at all and that the kid had a 99percent chance of committing suicide. He saved his life, but too bad the game took a big chunk of his life out, and the time in jail will take more of his life away.
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby Silver » Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:21 am

There are appropriate steps to take, but contacting the authorities should not be the first action.
1. Talk with the person to see if their claims of suicide are genuine.
2. Contact a suicide helpline and have them call him or supply contact info. If his claims were genuine, he has to seek or be willing to seek help. You can't force someone to stop being suicidal.
3. If intervention is warranted, it should be slow ...contact the parents and let them try to help their child.
4. Calling the cops who proceed to arrest and charge the teen is not going to help matters. If the kid wasn't suicidal before, he probably will be after dealing with his parents, the trial and his pending jail time (or whatever penalties are imposed).

For those of you who are cheering the WoW Rep as a savior...see the other side and realize that his actions may just as easily result in the kid actually killing himself.
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby Paladwyn » Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:26 am

I never said he was a saviour...but alot of these steps involve time...time the rep didn't feel the kid had.

There coulda been many ways for this to have been dealt with...any of which way people will both love and hate his decision. In the end I feel he did one of the better things, took it seriously but don't try to handle it himself, he's not an expert on it.
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby Silver » Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:38 am

Right, he's not a psychologist but unless the kid said he was about to kill himself - which does warrant immediate response, calling the cops was the wrong response. Merely laminating about the game and how empty his life would be without it does not rise to an immediate response level. Contacting the teen's parents would have been appropriate. By calling the police it comes off as a corporate maneuver to absolve Blizzard (and the rep) of any liability.
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby MrFredPFL » Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:43 am

a lot of assumptions being made here. maybe the guy was just worried and freaked out and called the cops.

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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby Psycho Ced » Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:10 am

Silver wrote:There are appropriate steps to take, but contacting the authorities should not be the first action.

Look how well that when for that kid who overdosed on live stream a few weeks ago...
Silver wrote:1. Talk with the person to see if their claims of suicide are genuine.

That is not his job.
Silver wrote:2. Contact a suicide helpline and have them call him or supply contact info. If his claims were genuine, he has to seek or be willing to seek help. You can't force someone to stop being suicidal.

That is not his job.
Silver wrote:3. If intervention is warranted, it should be slow ...contact the parents and let them try to help their child.

That is not his job.
Silver wrote:4. Calling the cops who proceed to arrest and charge the teen is not going to help matters. If the kid wasn't suicidal before, he probably will be after dealing with his parents, the trial and his pending jail time (or whatever penalties are imposed).

These guys are paid to do specific jobs within a limited scope, the cops have much more training on how to deal with such individuals then a technical support representative at call center. The skills needed to render the service you're suggesting would demand more money from a representative then blizzard is willing to pay ... not to mention the time per the whole procedure.
Silver wrote:For those of you who are cheering the WoW Rep as a savior...see the other side and realize that his actions may just as easily result in the kid actually killing himself.

He did his job to the best of his ability, playing psychiatrist would have been irresponsible, and would probably have gotten him in trouble.
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby rsrikanth05 » Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:31 am

Your_Mentor wrote:The kid endlessly plays World of Warcraft.. The REP pretty much knew the kid had NO LIFE at all and that the kid had a 99percent chance of committing suicide. He saved his life, but too bad the game took a big chunk of his life out, and the time in jail will take more of his life away.

Seriously, he should get out and play some hockey...
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby SchmuckofNI » Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:33 pm

Yet another reason why I won't touch World of Warcraft.
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby rsrikanth05 » Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:35 pm

SchmuckofNI wrote:Yet another reason why I won't touch World of Warcraft.

Yet another reason why I haven't and will not touch it...
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby xforce » Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:51 pm

im a bit confused on the logic as to why arrest someone who was suicidal or who might have been suicidal. i just find it strange to arrest and try someone for suicide attempts.
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby rsrikanth05 » Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:52 pm

xforce wrote:im a bit confused on the logic as to why arrest someone who was suicidal or who might have been suicidal. i just find it strange to arrest and try someone for suicide attempts.

That's nothing...over here in India, it is illegal to commit suicide...
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby Maestro120 » Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:35 pm

In most countries it is illegal to commit suicide. Of course you'll only get arrested if the attempt fails...
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby piguglyness » Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:26 pm

My son (aged 24) got into 'World Of Warcraft' it took over his entire life. In the end he cancelled his subscription, Turned round and said...'That game is like DIGITAL CRACK....Its so addictive, it just takes over your life. Any parents reading this that are planning on buying this game for their kids (or their kids have it already) please take care...watch them....limit their time on it.....It really does take over your head. :shock:
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby Downloader » Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:11 pm

piguglyness wrote:It really does take over your head. :shock:


I have to respectfully disagree with you there. Its not a drug of addiction, it is a escape from reality. You only commit all your time to it if you want to. "Addiction" to any game is usually a symptom of deeper issues. It will only "take over your head" if you want it to.


I have played it on and off for four years. The times I have not been playing it I have filled with other equally useless activities. ATM I have an active subscrition and lots of time off, I have been playing guitar hero, kicking the ball with my son, we went to the movies, I went shopping for an PMP and I think I may have jerked off to porn. All while fitting in shit shower and shave. Havent touched it in a week, mainly because none of my friends have been on and we use it as a tool to keep us occupied while we chat on teamspeak. Rest assured that all those other activities would have still taken place whether or not they were online anyway.

Please keep in mind this is not intended as an attack against you just stating my opinion.
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby rsrikanth05 » Fri Jan 02, 2009 4:44 am

Maestro120 wrote:In most countries it is illegal to commit suicide. Of course you'll only get arrested if the attempt fails...

And the success rate of suicide is generally 4/5.
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby Fartingbob » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:22 am

rsrikanth05 wrote:
Maestro120 wrote:In most countries it is illegal to commit suicide. Of course you'll only get arrested if the attempt fails...

And the success rate of suicide is generally 4/5.

Depends what you class as a real suicide attempt and what is just a cry for attention. IMO if anyone truely wants to off themselves then its very easy, peaceful and reliable. Take as many sleeping pills as you physically can, dont stop until you actually fall asleep.
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby rsrikanth05 » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:30 am

Fartingbob wrote:
rsrikanth05 wrote:
Maestro120 wrote:In most countries it is illegal to commit suicide. Of course you'll only get arrested if the attempt fails...

And the success rate of suicide is generally 4/5.

Depends what you class as a real suicide attempt and what is just a cry for attention. IMO if anyone truely wants to off themselves then its very easy, peaceful and reliable. Take as many sleeping pills as you physically can, dont stop until you actually fall asleep.

In reference to where I live, most suicide cases don't bother annoncing thier departure, they leave a not along with their body so that it is discovered after the death.
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby Paladwyn » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:31 am

Well...afaik, if you attempt it and fail, you never committed a crime (if it's not illegal in the country to attempt suicide, just illegal to commit it), I found myself then asking "Who cares if it's illegal then...you certainly won't you will be dead" but apparantly there is all kind if insurance/financial/legal repurcussions on not just you but any family/friends that might be in a will, or what not...
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby rsrikanth05 » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:37 am

Paladwyn wrote:Well...afaik, if you attempt it and fail, you never committed a crime (if it's not illegal in the country to attempt suicide, just illegal to commit it), I found myself then asking "Who cares if it's illegal then...you certainly won't you will be dead" but apparantly there is all kind if insurance/financial/legal repurcussions on not just you but any family/friends that might be in a will, or what not...

Read it for yourself in the IPC....
http://www.vakilno1.com/bareacts/Indian ... e/S306.htm
Here's the index of the IPC... http://www.vakilno1.com/bareacts/Indian ... alcode.htm
Have a look at Part 377 if you have the time..
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby Paladwyn » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:41 am

rsrikanth05 wrote:
Paladwyn wrote:Well...afaik, if you attempt it and fail, you never committed a crime (if it's not illegal in the country to attempt suicide, just illegal to commit it), I found myself then asking "Who cares if it's illegal then...you certainly won't you will be dead" but apparantly there is all kind if insurance/financial/legal repurcussions on not just you but any family/friends that might be in a will, or what not...

Read it for yourself in the IPC....
http://www.vakilno1.com/bareacts/Indian ... e/S306.htm
Here's the index of the IPC... http://www.vakilno1.com/bareacts/Indian ... alcode.htm
Have a look at Part 377 if you have the time..

That's nice...

India is just one country, not the entire world...I was not referencing India directly, besides in that statement you posted it's illegal to attempt AND commit suicide.
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby Paladwyn » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:46 am

Actually, doing some lookups...it seems alot MORE countries have "attempted suicide" as a crime, but actually commiting it isn't. There are some where attempting is NOT a crime, just committing it. Then there are places with both...but there IS a difference in attempting and committing.
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Re: Blizzard Rep Reports Suicide Threat, Teen Arrested

Postby rsrikanth05 » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:52 am

Paladwyn wrote:Actually, doing some lookups...it seems alot MORE countries have "attempted suicide" as a crime, but actually commiting it isn't. There are some where attempting is NOT a crime, just committing it. Then there are places with both...but there IS a difference in attempting and committing.

Agreed..
Mostly the difference is that, if committing is illegal, then you won't get your insurance, and if attempting is illegal, you get arrested if you fail.
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