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UK government goes on with its plan for data retention

Postby Overnet User » Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:10 pm

Story : http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number6.16/uk-data-retention

UK government intends to oblige ISPs and telephone companies to keep Internet personal data traffic for at least 12 months and local, health authorities and lots of other public bodies are to be given access to details of everyone's personal Internet information.

On 15 August 2008, the Home Office published a consultation paper which makes clear that the personal data will now be available for crime and public order investigations and may even be used to prevent people self-harming. Furthermore, as the measure is the result of an EU directive, the data will be made available to public investigators across Europe.

The measure will cover VOIP as well and access to personal Internet and text data will be available to all public bodies licensed under the 2000 Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA), meaning that hundreds of public bodies including local councils, health authorities, the Health and Safety Commission, the Food Standards Agency or Ofsted (the education standards watchdog), may require telecom companies to hand them over the personal data.

UK government intends to go further by introducing a draft communications bill this autumn which would require all the telecommunications companies to hand over this data to one central "super" database. The police and other public authorities will be able to access this database directly without having to make a request to the company which keeps the records.



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Re: UK government goes on with its plan for data retention

Postby Dazzle_2 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:51 pm

This bill is effectively a "rape of rights", its not something new though this has been slowly fermenting from at least 10 years ago when I first heard of the plan.

If we in the UK are all so lazy and complacent perhaps we need to work the other end of this wholesale privacy sellout by the simple strategy of creating so much junk data no one will have the time to process it.
I suggest that we start emailing as many folks as we can with trivial and useless junk lined with exciting keywords, sort of like a typists with tourettes syndrome and make sure they reply at least 4 or 5 times a day with repeat sending of previous days junk emails, sort of like a rotating carousel of junk, remember the more pages you send the safer you and others will be :twisted:

If your a sadistic kind of fellow use PGP to keep their attention focused on a food recipe :D

Of course don't forget to visit government depts such as DWPP, MAFF and any council sites you can find site , use tor, proxies, and visit any porn sites you think may have nasty ware for any nosey folks following your trail, this then is the way to safeguard yourself and if the worst comes to the worst at least you know anyone bothering to spy on you will have to do some manual work, something many officials are shy of I,m told.
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Re: UK government goes on with its plan for data retention

Postby georgegad » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:37 am

Dazzle_2 wrote:...
I suggest that we start emailing as many folks as we can with trivial and useless junk lined with exciting keywords...


You would want someone "on the inside" to leak you the list of keywords they search for. Then you possibly want to suggest to a spammer that including these words in his viagra emails would get each and every of them opened and read by a government lacky.

I dont know if i would want to do this on an individual level though, if they cant find any real terrorists in the first few months of operation they may just haul you in to pass the time. It might be funny to yank their chain for a while, but i would suggest doing it from a position of safety, the people you are thinking of fooling with can yank back much harder if they feel like it.
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Re: UK government goes on with its plan for data retention

Postby Townie » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:01 am

Another day another Government database, soon there will be so many databases the Government will need a database to keep track of them all. It's getting to the point whereby there is so much data, anything useful is buried under a mountain of shit.
One thing though, there is no need to worry about data getting lost as so many people have legitimate access anyway. What the fuck does the food standards agency need to know about my internet habits ?

The country is on it's arse, people losing their homes and jobs and where going to spend billions on databases that, going by the Government's record on anthing IT, will cost a fortune for shit systems that don't work at all or not as intended and employ idiots at great cost to run them.

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Re: UK government goes on with its plan for data retention

Postby Dazzle_2 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:19 am

I,m quite prepared to yank their chain back if thats what it takes to show the corruption and abuses involved in creating such a divisive and invasive database, as the old saying goes : it only takes for good men to do nothing for bad men to be victorious.

I have never given in to bullies, I hope you all stand with me in the fight for fair treatment in life and government honesty in their dealings us, to take anything less is to live in fear or mistrust, resentment creates revolution, the choice is theirs.
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Re: UK government goes on with its plan for data retention

Postby HouseCrowd » Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:23 pm

I think the UK government should try retaining the data they have already before retaining more:

UK government loses financial data on 25 million citizens

Three million records lost in another government data scandal

:pissedoff:

Which is one of the reasons I refuse to return electoral roll forms.
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Re: UK government goes on with its plan for data retention

Postby ZeroZero » Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:41 am

What more is there to say? The country is well and truly screwed.
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Re: UK government goes on with its plan for data retention

Postby Duracell » Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:26 pm

the personal data will now be available for crime and public order investigations and may even be used to prevent people self-harming


Might stop me getting RSI in my wrist then.

What a load of bollocks, the size and cost of just implementing such a system would be astronomical let alone the cost of maintaining it. Whoever came up with the idea clearly hasn't got a clue.
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Re: UK government goes on with its plan for data retention

Postby georgegad » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:09 pm

Dazzle_2 wrote: it only takes for good men to do nothing for bad men to be victorious.


Oh i wouldn't dream of stopping you good sir. And i hope when you do find that list you post it as a torrent for me.(Even tho im not in the uk, ill seed it for you after your isps censor it at your end)
Just saying cover your ass, they deport people to foreign detention centres for that sort of thing these days.
Stock up on proxys etc.
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