Paladwyn wrote:Frankly, the removal of child porn groups doesn't effect me in the slightest..sad to see that they are getting their foot in the door for removals, but to remove child porn is a good thing. And to complain about these groups and how you can't get into them raises some interesting questions.
altpdend wrote:Paladwyn wrote:Frankly, the removal of child porn groups doesn't effect me in the slightest..sad to see that they are getting their foot in the door for removals, but to remove child porn is a good thing. And to complain about these groups and how you can't get into them raises some interesting questions.
it's not about child porn if they are just removing cp and nothing else good but well it stop there. whats to stop them from getting rid of barely llegal porn people my not like it but it is still legal. Whats to stop someone from riaa and mpaa from uploading cp. to big groups like bonless and then reporting it to get the group removed thats the issue.
Paladwyn wrote:altpdend wrote:Paladwyn wrote:Frankly, the removal of child porn groups doesn't effect me in the slightest..sad to see that they are getting their foot in the door for removals, but to remove child porn is a good thing. And to complain about these groups and how you can't get into them raises some interesting questions.
it's not about child porn if they are just removing cp and nothing else good but well it stop there. whats to stop them from getting rid of barely llegal porn people my not like it but it is still legal. Whats to stop someone from riaa and mpaa from uploading cp. to big groups like bonless and then reporting it to get the group removed thats the issue.
That's what I was getting at, they now have their foot in the door..if it just stops there, which it won't.
Paladwyn wrote:See Curmudgeon that's just precisely it...
You could put those pics of kiddie porn in any group... any group...
See where I'm going?
Toasty wrote:It must be the economy. Judges are probably BOGO in Sweden right now.
2 Men Go to Prison over Teen Girl's Lie--and More on the Way
May 31st, 2008 by Glenn Sacks
From Man Sentenced To Prison After Girl's MySpace Page Lies About Age (WFTV, 5/21/08):
"A 13-year-old girl's sexual shenanigans have put a second man behind bars. Morris Williams, 22, told the judge he thought the girl was 18-years-old, but he found out Tuesday that ignorance is not a defense.
"Morris Williams' mother wailed as he went off to jail. The judge asked for media not to show 13-year-old Alisha Dean's face in court, but her pictures are all over her MySpace page and they portray a sexy, 19-year-old divorced woman.
"'She told me she had just turned 18,' Williams said.
"Williams said Dean picked him up on the street and after a few conversations they had sex. When he heard she was not 18, he went to her father.
"'He was like 'well, she's 13,' Williams said of a conversation with Dean's father.
"Williams said he never did it again, but Dean has done it before with 24-year-old Darwin Mills. Mills was sentenced to five years in prison."
OK, Morris Williams and Darwin Mills are idiots, but this is ridiculous--six years of prison between them and the only person they "harmed" is the person who victimized them. And I love the way the reporter refers to it as "a 13-year-old girl's sexual shenanigans." "Shenanigans"? Ha ha, it's a real riot.
One of the Worst Fathers I've Ever Seen
The worst person in this whole story is the girl's father, Jerry Dean. Williams came to him when he learned the girl was not 18, and what did the father do? Turn him in, apparently. Then he has the goddamned gall to "want Williams to join Mills" in prison!? Yet this creep's 13-year-old daughter is out having sex with adult strangers, advertising herself to them and luring them into a trap--and he apparently has nothing to say about it. (The article doesn't mention the mother but I strongly suspect she's of the same caliber as the father.)
And get this--"Dean's family admits Alisha still stays out late and has yet to delete her misleading MySpace page." As Williams' stepdad says:
"I guess we just sit back and count how many after this."
EvilWizardGlick wrote:Kiddie porn is the new Boogey man that will be used to close first newsgroups then those hard to nail torrent sites.
Fifty-nine years after Congress outlawed child labor in its most onerous forms, underage children still toil in fields and factories scattered across America.
The poorest and most vulnerable among them start working before other children start kindergarten. Many earn wages below the legal minimum, often in exhausting, or even hazardous, jobs.
These children live in a world apart from most Americans, hidden from consumers and even the companies that buy the products of their labor. Yet those products can sometimes be as close as the local mall or the corner grocery.
.... EDITED by SlyckTom due to unnecessarily long quotation. The entire article doesn't need to be reposted. Thanks...
ConAgra's Hunt-Wesson unit, which makes Rosarita salsa, contacted its chili supplier and was ``very comfortable that they were addressing any issue that might be there,'' said Hunt-Wesson spokesman Kay Carpenter.
Pillsbury checked with its supplier, said company spokesman Rob Longendyke, and was told children had been in the New Mexico chili fields with their families but were not working.
``If you have evidence otherwise,'' he said, ``we will take action.''
Instead, the 16-year-old girl wound up working 10-hour days in a waterfront factory, sewing labels onto knockoff NFL, Polo, Izod and FUBU gear - for $50 a day.
She was the youngest of the 11 workers arrested in last week's NYPD raid at the College Point factory - a bust experts call the first of its kind in New York.
Jung Ryu and his wife, Ji Young Ryu, the Korean couple who owned the bootleg business, lived comfortably in a $1.5 million home in Melville, L.I.
They had $500,000 in accounts when they were were arrested on felony charges of trademark counterfeiting and possession of forgery devices, prosecutors said. Each faces up to 15 years behind bars.
Leticia's 50-hour weeks far exceed the 28-hour workweeks allowed under child labor laws - and her hours kept her from going to school, her relatives said.
She, like all the workers at the factory, were being paid below minimum wage, police said.
EvilWizardGlick wrote:Instead, the 16-year-old girl wound up working 10-hour days in a waterfront factory, sewing labels onto knockoff NFL, Polo, Izod and FUBU gear - for $50 a day.
SwordOfZork wrote:Just because you CAN sue someone, doesn't mean you're not a total douche for doing so.
stashy wrote:It seems that American newsgroup providers are being pressed to follow 18 U.S.C. 2257 which prohibits
"any image using a model or models under the age of 18 years whether the models are partially clothed or unclothed"
So that would presumably include all nudists, naturalists, and lost Amazon tribes. Even the 1969 Blind Faith album cover.
The administrative law that has been created by virtue of the Act to guide and aid its enforcement, 28 C.F.R. 75 (also known as the 2257 Regulations), specifies record-keeping requirements for those wishing to produce sexually explicit media, and imposes criminal penalties for failure to comply. This is intended to ensure that no person under the legal age is involved in such undertakings.
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