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Postby SlyckTom » Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:26 am

About three weeks ago, news began to circulate that HD DVD's DRM (Doesn't Really Matter) was circumvented by an individual named "muslix64." Although the exact details of his discovery were purposely and perhaps intelligently kept murky, enough information was released that gave additional curiosity seekers the ammunition necessary to apply this knowledge to other releases.

The results so far likely have Hollywood scrambling. Both Blu-Ray and HD DVD are protected by encryption and hardware solutions - just like the traditional DVD. Much like the DVD's CSS (Content Scrambling Software), the weak encryption that was broken thanks in part to Jon Lech Johansen, the next generation optical discs are protected with a scheme called AACS, or Advanced Access Content System.

At this point only the HD DVD's protection - not Blue Ray - has been defeated. Interestingly enough, now that HD-DVD content is beginning to circulate, the demand for HD DVD hardware may offset any victorious claim that Blue Ray has in the format war. Could piracy help the HD DVD format much like it fueled the broadband revolution?

If it does, those with enough hard drive space and bandwidth will begin using one of the most popular avenues for online distribution - The Pirate Bay. The Pirate Bay has become one of the best known BitTorrent trackers, gaining notoriety for its defiance of intellectual property rights. Additionally, The Pirate Bay enhanced its celebrity status after being forced off line by the movie industry, only to reappear three days later.

Perhaps even more defiant these days, The Pirate Bay has announced the arrival of HD DVD torrents.

"Yesterday the user Lyzz became historical by posting the first HD-DVD movie on our fine tracker," a most recent blog post states. "It was the action sci fi movie The Chronicles of Riddick, and today Batman Begins came along. They are about 20 GB each, so we recommend some fast broadband (moving to Sweden should take care of that) and a superfast computer to take care of the 1080p video."

The Pirate Bay is currently in negotiations to relocate the base of operations. Their primary location of interest is Sealand, the supposedly autonomous World War II base off the coast of England. In order to purchase the expensive man-made island, The Pirate Bay needs to raise approximately $2 million. Thus far, the BitTorrent tracker has raised $17,000 in only one week. With HD DVD content blatantly advertised, they may need that island much sooner rather than later.
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Postby freakinvibe » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:44 am

I also heard that blu ray does not allow porn stuff. But this kind of content was always a driver for new technology.

I really start to believe that HD DVD will be the winner over blu ray.
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Postby Avenger » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:54 am

$2,000,000 is very cheap for an island.
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Postby freakinvibe » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:04 am

@SlyckTom: It costs two billion (not million) as stated on http://thepiratebay.org/blog
The price for Sealand is probably about $2.000.000.000. We don't really care. We're going for it anyhow! We really want to see what the community can do - with it's own island. Since we are all for sharing the country would be shared amongst us all.
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Postby bobdobbins » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:48 am

yes, you are correct, the adult entertainment industry made an announcement that future HD releases will be on HD-DVD. As for buying an island, certainly an entertaining idea, who owns it? could they negotiate the price if the owner supported them?
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Postby liquidmonkey » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:54 am

have always been a BLU-RAY follower and really wonder if this will at all push HD-DVD ahead? on the big scheme of things, i highly doubt it.
long live blu-ray.
at least LG has released a dual format player, much different than the VHS BETA war.

back on topic...
good work pirate bay on the support for those large torrents. i really want a 100MB connection now, 8MB is just not cutting it :cry:
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Postby The Old One » Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:49 am

liquidmonkey wrote:i really want a 100MB connection now, 8MB is just not cutting it :cry:
Lucky you I can't get anything faster than 384K
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Postby JolietJake » Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:40 pm

liquidmonkey wrote:have always been a BLU-RAY follower and really wonder if this will at all push HD-DVD ahead? on the big scheme of things, i highly doubt it.
long live blu-ray.
at least LG has released a dual format player, much different than the VHS BETA war.

back on topic...
good work pirate bay on the support for those large torrents. i really want a 100MB connection now, 8MB is just not cutting it :cry:
That LG player probably won't see the light of day due to not being fully compliant with hd-dvd.
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Postby MrFredPFL » Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:06 pm

The Old One wrote:
liquidmonkey wrote:i really want a 100MB connection now, 8MB is just not cutting it :cry:
Lucky you I can't get anything faster than 384K


:lol: be glad you don't live where i do ;)
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Postby Vampirescu » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:05 pm

freakinvibe wrote:@SlyckTom: It costs two billion (not million) as stated on http://thepiratebay.org/blog
The price for Sealand is probably about $2.000.000.000. We don't really care. We're going for it anyhow! We really want to see what the community can do - with it's own island. Since we are all for sharing the country would be shared amongst us all.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6239967.stm wrote:The firm, Inmonaranja, has put a price tag of 750m euros (£504m) on Sealand.

However, Michael was reluctant to put a price tag on it.
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Postby hedgem » Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:43 am

Why don't thet just steal the island? A few good cannons, a good crew , and some good sailing men.
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Postby Ratt » Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:32 am

hedgem wrote:Why don't thet just steal the island? A few good cannons, a good crew , and some good sailing men.


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Postby soccerboy » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:16 pm

r these movies burnable onto normal dvds,like 5 of em, n then played on a normal dvd player?
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Postby Fartingbob » Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:56 am

soccerboy wrote:r these movies burnable onto normal dvds,like 5 of em, n then played on a normal dvd player?

To do that you'd need to convert the files to standard DVD files, then split it up into DVD sized chunks and burn them. However, you would lose most of the benefit gained from the higher qual source since DVD players arent designed to run such high quality videos, and so if it works at all, there would be little/no difference between a HD-DVD encoded onto 4 or 5 DVD's, and a retail DVD9 version.
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Postby kennyg101 » Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:18 am

Nothing ever good has happened on Sealand since the sixties. The chances of it being allowed to be a center for TPB are about 0. I really hope that they don't waste their money and do some proper research into the place. It is not recognised as a country by any other country and is in UK territorial waters. It is basically a joke that the government doesn't bother to do anything about because its "prince" has promised to never cause harm to the UK. Since the US was threatening a trade war with sweden over TPB I can well imagine they would be more than happy to ask for assistance from the ever helpful UK government who would very quickly close the place down.
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Postby WarezNewz » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:07 am

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Postby muppet » Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:58 pm

There's a far better use for sealand-dump blair,bush and their cronies on it and leave the rest of us in
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Postby Fartingbob » Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:29 pm

muppet wrote:There's a far better use for sealand-dump blair,bush and their cronies on it and leave the rest of us in
peace. :D

We've done that before. Its called Australia. :D
Didnt work out though, now they enjoy their life surfing and having BBQ's in winter, while we attempt to throw cricket balls in their general direction.
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Postby soccerboy » Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:48 pm

Fartingbob wrote:
soccerboy wrote:r these movies burnable onto normal dvds,like 5 of em, n then played on a normal dvd player?

To do that you'd need to convert the files to standard DVD files, then split it up into DVD sized chunks and burn them. However, you would lose most of the benefit gained from the higher qual source since DVD players arent designed to run such high quality videos, and so if it works at all, there would be little/no difference between a HD-DVD encoded onto 4 or 5 DVD's, and a retail DVD9 version.


so this is only good if u watch it on ur comp. or stream it or something to your tv
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Postby tArqueLL » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:08 pm

you may want to add that bluray disks have also been decrypted by these leetos!...check doom9 forums..

muslix you are a flippin legend!!
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Postby Mel_Smiley_VIP » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:02 pm

Theyre there but who the hell wants to download them? Most peoples PCs are not able to play them (use google to download some 1080p test vids) I have a decent PC and a 300 dollar graphics card and I barely past mustard. 90% of the wild will be downloading useless content.

why is the movie so bugy?! :S it skippes frames and a black "box" apperes in the upper left corner! I use power dvd 6.5...


Thats gonna be the disappointment of many a downloader. Sorta funny.

If you do not have a newish graphix card with at least 256M of video ram, do not download (dont try VLCplayer either, it doesnt seem to handle HD 1080p or at least on my rig)

And then I keep hearing people say they are going to re-encode to divx or xvid? Reeeeetarded! Whats the point? Save yourself the trouble and just download the smaller file to begin with. How long does it take to download a 24 gig file from the bay? 3 weeks? Some vids have been up 5 days with still only 1 seed. 1 vid has many seeds but I suspect that that one had some kinda group effort or is a false report. How long will it take anyone to seed to a 1:1 ratio? It would take me a month.


P.S. No, a DVD player will not play 1080p. Some do use scalers I believe but thats also retarded. Its like watching a 320x240 video fullscreen and thinking its now hi rez.
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Postby cjules13 » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:19 pm

My dual core machine plays 1080p quite smoothly.

And all I do is hook up the monitor out to my plasma and presto.

I got better sources than TPB for this stuff tho.
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