Slyck.com
 
Slyck Chatbox - And More

Grokster Shuts Down

Discuss Slyck's latest news
Forum rules
PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Slyck Forum Rules

Grokster Shuts Down

Postby SlyckTom » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:07 pm

The file-sharing world has lost yet another commercial P2P application. Grokster, the main defendant in the MGM vs. Grokster Supreme Court trial, has officially surrendered. In a statement on its homepage, the decision appears to be final – at far as free P2P is concerned.

Grokster was a spyware/adware ridden client that connected to the FastTrack P2P network. Its reputation for being an obtrusive and potentially computer-damaging application earned it vast disrespect from the file-sharing community.

Adding to its public relation woes, Grokster found itself at odds with MGM Studios. MGM Studios accused Grokster of facilitating the wholesale distribution of copyrighted music and movies. In a drawn out courtroom saga, two federal courts agreed that Grokster was not responsible for the actions of its users. However, on June 29th, the Supreme Court found that Grokster was responsible and could be sued by MGM Studios.

This decision, although specifically directed at Grokster, would lead to a domino effect for commercial P2P vendors. iMesh, WinMX, MetaMachine, LimeWire and BearShare were all forced to change in one manner or another. Today, Grokster announced it has ceased any and all operations related to its former self.

As part of a settlement agreement with the member companies of the RIAA and MPAA, three years of litigation have come to an end. In addition to other undisclosed aspects of the agreement, Grokster must "permanent injunction prohibiting infringement – directly or indirectly – of any of the plaintiffs’ copyrighted works. This includes ceasing immediately distribution of the Grokster client application and ceasing to operate the Grokster system and software."

The following message is all that remains on the Grokster.com homepage:

"The United States Supreme Court unanimously confirmed that using this service to trade copyrighted material is illegal. Copying copyrighted motion picture and music files using unauthorized peer-to-peer services is illegal and is prosecuted by copyright owners."

"There are legal services for downloading music and movies. This service is not one of them."

"Grokster hopes to have a safe and legal service available soon."

According to Grokster's homepage, a new "legal" service is currently under development. The project, called Grokster3G touts itself as a "safe, secure & legal P2P experience."

Keep in mind, this settlement only affects the future downloading of the Grokster client. It does not prevent current Grokster users from obtaining files from the FastTrack network in any way.

The interesting aspect of "legal" music and movie services is the attempt to convey their "safe" and "secure" characteristics. Yet the RIAA's and MPAA's actions on behalf of their member companies has served to eradicate many of the worst offending P2P applications, leaving considerably more "safe" and "secure" open source clients to fill the gaps. The file-sharing world is a better place with Grokster officially vanquished.
Follow us on Twitter @SlyckDotCom
Join our Facebook Fan page
SlyckTom
 
Posts: 5713
Joined: Fri Jul 26, 2002 7:22 pm
Location: New York City

Postby squirm » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:17 pm

So how is it shut down if it's suppose to be a "decentralized" p2p?
squirm
 
Posts: 59
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:08 pm

Postby Meehowski » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:19 pm

squirm wrote:So how is it shut down if it's suppose to be a "decentralized" p2p?


Great question...........
Calendar of Updates
Keep Your Security Software Current
Upgrades, Updates & Definitions
User avatar
Meehowski
 
Posts: 113
Joined: Sat Sep 27, 2003 11:35 pm
Location: Rochester, N.Y.

Postby AussieMatt » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:23 pm

Grokster are also delveloping for Mashboxx .
AussieMatt
 
Posts: 1044
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:03 am

Postby Allied » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:36 pm

Kinda hard to find a positive side in all this.

Some Grokster users may be believe that Groksters death will affect their downloads. Then go searching for a new p2p app.

I'll be keeping an eye on the fasttrack stats. I'm guessing the gnutella network will start growing.

...assuming Grokster users view the Grokster home page.
Allied's Review:
Recommended: LimeWire | Ares | Shareaza | eMule | KCeasy
Not Recommended: Morpheus | Kazaa | eDonkey2000 | Manolito | iMesh
User avatar
Allied
Mostly Harmless
 
Posts: 2170
Joined: Sat Aug 14, 2004 11:23 pm
Location: Behind You Shoe Size: 11.008 BitTorrent: µTorrent Nationality: Canuckian Newsgroups: GrabIt

Postby SlyckTom » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:40 pm

The website and software was shut down (in the context of being inaccessible.) Grokster was not a network, since we're nitpicking ;)
Follow us on Twitter @SlyckDotCom
Join our Facebook Fan page
SlyckTom
 
Posts: 5713
Joined: Fri Jul 26, 2002 7:22 pm
Location: New York City

Re: Grokster Shuts Down

Postby kitk3000 » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:42 pm

SlyckTom wrote:...The file-sharing world is a better place with Grokster officially vanquished.

:lol: :rofl:
Amen brother!
User avatar
kitk3000
 
Posts: 46
Joined: Sat May 21, 2005 1:36 pm

Postby zbeast » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:43 pm

Grokster wont be missed maybe it will help get more people off of fasttrack.
I dont know if Grokster has any client killer code in it like xolox client did.
zbeast
 
Posts: 6783
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2004 5:20 pm
Location: Behind that itch. yes, that one right there.

Postby zim » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:44 pm

Never really liked grokster.

Aside from the cool name it was a shoddy kazaa clone. with spyware.


They did try to goto court tho. But only for their own intrests and not for p2p itself. More than willing to sell everyone else out if they can keep making money.
User avatar
zim
 
Posts: 5776
Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:01 am

Postby jetiants-tk-user » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:50 pm

the new website is grogster3g.com

3 g stand for third generation

wil grokster be like LINK REMOVED or LINK REMOVED ?

so a non-direct downloading ?

interesting name though.--


EDITED: No more of this .tk crap please!! Post the proper links, or not at all!

HC
jetiants-tk-user
 
Posts: 133
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:38 pm

Postby zim » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:52 pm

they said they will be legal...

so basically a paid download service like itunes i'm guessing.

or just selling those stupid paid drm loaded movie clips they had on the fastrack network.
User avatar
zim
 
Posts: 5776
Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:01 am

Postby Nick » Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:10 pm

Our gain is the MPAA's loss

Bye Grokster
Nick
 
Posts: 3840
Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:38 am

Postby tm, » Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:36 pm

SlyckTom wrote:The website and software was shut down (in the context of being inaccessible.)

Does this mean that existing installations of the Grokster client, as well as (newly-installed) unauthorized 3rd-party 'clean' versions of Grokster, will no longer connect to the Fasttrack network?

Or is it only that the official website no longer offers the software for download, but that the Grokster client is still otherwise functional?
tm,
 
Posts: 1192
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:23 am

Postby TheIce_Man222 » Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:44 pm

So how is it shut down if it's suppose to be a "decentralized" p2p?



Simple , as far as i remember from years back grokster was basically a bastardised version of the original morpheus client that appeared just with different graphics , the original morpheus was taken down in one single night when the so called 'non existant' central server was shut down by the owners, i would imagine grokster is exactly the same though i haven't used it in years - that old fasttrack client was not decentralised at all and could be shut down easily - History : :roll:
TheIce_Man222
 
Posts: 62
Joined: Thu May 19, 2005 9:19 am

Postby TheIce_Man222 » Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:46 pm

thats when there was a mad scramble to implement an open source fast track client that never appeared i.e. vapour wear and the rest is history , cant believe some people are still using fasttrack
TheIce_Man222
 
Posts: 62
Joined: Thu May 19, 2005 9:19 am

Postby SlyckTom » Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:56 pm

Does this mean that existing installations of the Grokster client, as well as (newly-installed) unauthorized 3rd-party 'clean' versions of Grokster, will no longer connect to the Fasttrack network?


No, they will function just fine. This whole situation just means you cant download it from Grokster.com.

Or is it only that the official website no longer offers the software for download, but that the Grokster client is still otherwise functional?


That is correct...
Follow us on Twitter @SlyckDotCom
Join our Facebook Fan page
SlyckTom
 
Posts: 5713
Joined: Fri Jul 26, 2002 7:22 pm
Location: New York City

Postby SlyckTom » Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:57 pm

Does this mean that existing installations of the Grokster client, as well as (newly-installed) unauthorized 3rd-party 'clean' versions of Grokster, will no longer connect to the Fasttrack network?


No, they will function just fine. This whole situation just means you cant download it from Grokster.com.

Or is it only that the official website no longer offers the software for download, but that the Grokster client is still otherwise functional?


That is correct...
Follow us on Twitter @SlyckDotCom
Join our Facebook Fan page
SlyckTom
 
Posts: 5713
Joined: Fri Jul 26, 2002 7:22 pm
Location: New York City

Postby kjf2 » Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:28 pm

tm, wrote:
SlyckTom wrote:The website and software was shut down (in the context of being inaccessible.)

Does this mean that existing installations of the Grokster client, as well as (newly-installed) unauthorized 3rd-party 'clean' versions of Grokster, will no longer connect to the Fasttrack network?

Or is it only that the official website no longer offers the software for download, but that the Grokster client is still otherwise functional?


The only thing that happened was a text-change on their homepage (and them stopping distributing the grokster-software).
If you´ve grokster or any other fasttrack client installed on your system , it still works :D
kjf2
 
Posts: 19
Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:09 am

Postby SlyckTom » Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:55 pm

The only thing that happened was a text-change on their homepage (and them stopping distributing the grokster-software).



Excellent point, but I dont think "Grokster Changes Homepage Text" quite gets the message out ;)
Follow us on Twitter @SlyckDotCom
Join our Facebook Fan page
SlyckTom
 
Posts: 5713
Joined: Fri Jul 26, 2002 7:22 pm
Location: New York City

Postby tm, » Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:04 pm

It's my understanding that older versions of the "Fasttrack client" - and this probably includes the long-neglected Grokster 1.6 - had a backdoor feature that allowed them to be remotely 'updated' -- and, like Morpheus in 2002, forcibly shut down if desired.

Does anyone know the status of the Grokster clients?

Also, did Grokster host it's own gateway server? Shutting it off would of course not prevent network connection, but only slow down the process as fasttrack clients then search through lists of nodes to try to connect. (kind of like Ares)
tm,
 
Posts: 1192
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:23 am

what about the ads?

Postby flohmann » Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:48 pm

Are Grokster users still receiving ads? Are they receiving "upgrade" notices?
flohmann
 
Posts: 1
Joined: Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:01 am

Postby altpdend » Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:00 pm

i tried to install grokster and the online installer is disabled. I hear that the grokster network is still functioning normally. I doubt that grokster was able to lockout it's users becasue they can't controll the network all they have is a gui of the kazaa network that is controled by sharman .
altpdend
 
Posts: 276
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 1:35 pm

Major News?

Postby captainrondj » Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:41 am

Come on now, who actually still used Grokster anyway?
"Chaos Inc. Enriching life through madness!!!
User avatar
captainrondj
 
Posts: 19
Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:27 am
Location: Longview,WA

Postby snake187 » Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:07 am

its the mans fault
snake187
 
Posts: 141
Joined: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:57 pm

Postby IceCube » Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:41 am

Am I only one that sees a downfall of the breakdown of Grokster? Seriously though, once they get the money grubbing companies out of the way, knocking out websites that distribute open source clean apps will be like blowing out a candle! :?
User avatar
IceCube
 
Posts: 17079
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:31 pm
Location: Igloo Country?

Next

Return to Slyck News

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests

© 2001-2008 Slyck.com