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Ares Goes Open Source

Postby Malicious Intent » Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:27 pm

File sharing network Ares began life in December 2002, when the Ares Gnutella client broke away from the Open Source Gnutella network to form its own proprietary decentralized network.

As the FastTrack network faltered under the pressure of fake files and lawsuits, Ares was in the right place at the right time to pick up the refugees.

With help from the Warez P2P client for Ares, the network grew exponentially, reaching a reported 500,000 by mid-2004.

Warez P2P claimed the network reached 1,000,000 in September last year and that the network briefly topped 2,000,000 early this year.

The figures produced by Warez P2P are hotly debated, but one thing is for sure, Ares is a big player in the market.

Alberto, the developer of Ares P2P, has up to now funded his project by including adware, although the installer did give users the option to opt-out.

Now, however, Alberto has cleared all adware and spyware from the installer and opened the source code to developers.

The new Open Source Ares is available at <a href=http://sourceforge.net/projects/aresgalaxy target=_blank>Sourceforge</a>, who provide free services to Open Source developers.

There is some speculation the decision to release the source code is related to the RIAA, who, emboldened by recent court decisions, have been sending <a href=http://news.com.com/RIAA+sends+letters+to+P2P+services/2100-1030_3-5867085.html?tag=nefd.top target=_blank>cease-and-desist</a> letters to various P2P companies, demanding they stop “enabling and inducing the infringement of RIAA member sound recordings.”

Alberto was not available for immediate comment.

This is not the first time Open Source fans have been able to connect to the network. In January, KCeasy <a href=http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=635 target=_blank>gained</a> support for Ares.
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Postby Nick » Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:29 pm

Nice article, MI. Alberto is one of the rare legends, and this is an excellent and heroic move.
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Postby LxBeast » Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:47 pm

Great write up M_I.

This should prove to be very interesting, a wise move by Alberto. Best of luck to the project/developers.
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Re: Ares Goes Open Source

Postby Allied » Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:00 pm

Malicious Intent wrote:There is some speculation the decision to release the source code is related to the RIAA, who, bolstered by recent court decisions, have been sending letters to various P2P companies, demanding they stop “enabling and inducing the infringement of RIAA member sound recordings.”

RIAA:Hey Ares, you'd better cut it out or I'll mess you up like Napster bitch!
Ares: You want a piece of me?
RIAA:Man I'm the one that busted up CuteMX, Scour, AudioGalaxy and Aimster, there aint no place you can hide.
Ares:Hide?
RIAA:I aint playing with you fool!
*Sourceforge walks in and stands beside Ares
Ares:Just bring it.

*RIAA runs away
:D Long live Ares
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Postby irish » Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:02 pm

Thanks for that write up. I'm giving this a go as I write.
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Postby roomy » Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:35 pm

Guess which P2P application will be next to connect to the Ares network ? humm? :D
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Postby bkman » Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:30 pm

roomy wrote:Guess which P2P application will be next to connect to the Ares network ? humm? :D


Shareaza probably won't be next, but I think it would be beneficial if it did. Ares already uses sha1, so swarming should be easy.
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Postby Allied » Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:54 pm

Doesn't look like Ares is being well recieved by the Shareaza community.

Maybe Ares will implement Gnutella? Are there any Gnutella clients in Delphi?
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Postby roomy » Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:54 pm

bkman wrote:
roomy wrote:Guess which P2P application will be next to connect to the Ares network ? humm? :D


Shareaza probably won't be next, but I think it would be beneficial if it did. Ares already uses sha1, so swarming should be easy.


Shareaza will be next.
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Postby bkman » Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:26 pm

roomy wrote:Shareaza will be next.

First they have to get the Gnutella support up-to-scratch, and lets face it the dev's aren't being payed so they are not going to work their quickest. :P
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Postby kevogod » Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:26 pm

roomy wrote:
bkman wrote:
roomy wrote:Guess which P2P application will be next to connect to the Ares network ? humm? :D


Shareaza probably won't be next, but I think it would be beneficial if it did. Ares already uses sha1, so swarming should be easy.


Shareaza will be next.

Don't count on it. Ares is written in Delphi. Shareaza is written in C++.
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Postby Charles » Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:27 pm

at roomy: :roll: And if they do, that's really stupid considering their current support of the networks....
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Postby zab » Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:27 pm

I was just about to bring this thread back on the slyck's favorite topic, but the fanboi roomy beat me to it!

The question really is: is Ares open-source like some successful projects are, or is it open source as in abandoned (like certain p2p wannabe)?
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Postby Psycho Ced » Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:31 pm

zab wrote:The question really is: is Ares open-source like some successful projects are, or is it open source as in abandoned (like certain p2p wannabe)?


You have to wonder!
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Postby Assyrian » Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:41 pm

nice article, good read, thanks.

good step for ares.
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Postby BlueThunder » Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:44 pm

zab wrote:
The question really is: is Ares open-source like some successful projects are, or is it open source as in abandoned (like certain p2p wannabe)?


Just curious, what p2p program do you use?
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Postby Psycho Ced » Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:46 pm

^^^
Shareaza! :twisted:
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Postby roomy » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:17 pm

Humm, does this mean development on Ares has ended ?

If so, then i retract. Shareaza should not implement a dead protocol/Network.

Shareaza should press on to improve Gnutella support.
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Postby ashton » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:56 pm

Charles wrote:at roomy: :roll: And if they do, that's really stupid considering their current support of the networks....

um, well you can make a static or dynamic library with the delphi source and stub it out. :idea:
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Postby bmh67wa » Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:38 am

All we need now is for Shareaza to work with ed2k and OpenNap and all of the favorite file sharing protocols will be messed up. I know that I will be blocking that client from my server!
Excellent article MI. I never really liked Ares much but I haven't tried it in months. I just might have to give it another chance.
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Postby opita » Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:53 am

Believe it or not.
I can say I contributed to Ares development.
Back in the early development of Ares, alberto received feedback through email.
Even though I am not a coder, I mentioned to him bugs and improvements that could be made.
Well he not only replied, back but started fixing and improving the program with my recommendations.
Any developer, in my opinion who is humble enough to take direct emails and actually work on them, deserves my praise. It seems you don't see a lot of this now a days.
Great that its open source btw, for whatever reason it is one of my favorite networks and we will definetily see something good come out of this.
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Postby 666 » Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:02 am

New KCeasy Ares plugin expected in october: http://www.kceasy.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1165 .
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Postby jetiants-tk-user » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:10 am

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Postby no_dammagE » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:11 am

Alberto is one of the developers who didn't lose their face or soul due to Adware. I still remember Ares for Gnutella - the client was looking great, but couldn't get used to Gnutella's bad health. He was always open for discussion and feature suggestions found entrance into the client if they made sense.
This way Ares because a non-overloaded client with great performance [for same purposes as KaZaA].

Although I never used Ares (except testing it 2-3 times in a year), I'm very proud that AresP2P was able to become so popular and didn't sell its soul to Adware or commercial third-party clients as it happened to Piolet.

So, Ares became open-source. I hope that KCEasy will separate gift-ares from the application core and make it portable. This way alternative clients might be ready to enter the battlegrounds and Ares might get support for alternative SHA1 hashes (as it is done in Shareaza - 2 hashes exist for the same file, exchange on demand/on support). Such a feature would make Gnutella and Ares more compatible on urn-basis.

Well, I'm not a prophet :roll: Go Ares Go.
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Postby jetiants-tk-user » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:30 am

Alberto has created a big network and a decentral chat and a good ares gui.
Going open source is a distribution to the users.
Well done, but if the developer would be responsible, he would NOT leave a baby in a box of the ambulance, but make it able to live alone... which means to make it open and perform a development team and beeing available for the next coding phase, which makes the network hybrid with gnutella nodes.
At the moment ares is isolated and this is not good, alberto should invest some weeks in integrating gnutella nodes
- a delhphi gnutellium with code is here
http://capnbry.net/gnutella/my_client.php

implementing gift-ares in shareaza would be a way.
but we need the decentral chat in shareaza and we need those grwoing pipe bars !!!! they are the awfulst thing in ares, a gui showing speed !!!
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