Paladwyn wrote:You are identified every time you try to fly on a plane, they take your passport, which has all your information. So, instead of some guy standing there, holding your picture up and identifying if it's you, and if he thinks you may be in the wrong, then sends you off to a little room where you get grilled? This is somehow better than having a machine do it for them?
It is absolutely better than a machine that gets it wrong mor that 30% of the time.
Paladwyn wrote:You name what civil right would be removed in the US on such a thing? The only reason why they don't do this in the US yet, is the fact the technology hasn't been exactly perfect. Perhaps if they had such a setup, the terrorists wouldn't have been able to bypass security so easily with a fake mustache and hijack a plane.
Nothing at the moment, except in some states that tech is rendered illegal, but there will be many lawsuits all the way up to the supreme court, involving the fourth and fifth amendment. The laws put in place will limit facial recognition to a reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed or will be committed, you can carve that into stone.Facial recognition is not here, you said it.
All of the illegal constitutional nightmares put in place by george bush in the name of terrorism, will get him legally hanged one day on the WH steps, you can take that to the bank.
mustaches??? WTF are you talking about? Are you talking about the fact that 20lbs will render that tech useless. Facial hair will also do so, regardless of what you say, until you can prove otherwise. If I grow a beard, there is no points of reference for that machine to recognize.
Paladwyn wrote:Regardless what list you are already on, all this is doing is taking the job of identifying an individual away from the security guards and put it in the hands of the machines.
Says..... you, or would the gov of the US that is responsible for suspending habius corpus, posse comitatus, illegal spying on Americans, starting an illegal war, torture, illegal detention centers and taking a country of laws and turning it into a country of people decide what extent of that tech is used? Um just you I guess.

Paladwyn wrote:From your posts, you are deeply against this, but I suspect it has alot more to do with your background than it does to do with privacy. Are you somebody who tries to hide their identity for some reason and need to get on a plane? If you are, then you shouldn't enter an airport.
I for one can see the forest from the trees, a passport is one thing. privacy matters such as a national ID card, facial recognition tech, DPI and human tracking devices anything that limits my personal freedoms, privacy, human rights, I have carved a canyon in front of where I stand. My background, Ill always be innocent until proven guilty, even If that right has to be taken by force.
You on the other hand dont see limiting the rights of the innocent, to the rights of the guilty is immoral and Anti American on top of that. Oh, to catch the terrorists... give me a F*cking break!! Been there done that(half assed).
Paladwyn wrote:The list is already made...why would me giving my personal information change anything? So the machine would see me...big deal, I'm a stand up citizen in the country of Canada, personally I have absolutely nothing to fear, I would be granted a passport and allowed to go on an airplane in a heartbeat, and regardless if a machine took my identity or not, it doesn't change who I am.
Right and like the UK you have no right to your own ass, literally, your bum.

It doesnt change who you are, or the country you live in, enjoy!!! Its utter madness if you think such tech will be limited to airports, in the UK or canada.
There are members of non violent groups that have been put on the no fly list, what makes them any different that you? There are mistaken identities that have been put on no fly lists. What makes you so special? In any case you would be no different than obl trying to get on a plane. Instead of limiting such tech to criminals you have been wrapped into the web right along with them. For what? Terrorist surveillance? Ehh you can keep that sh*t!!
Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they are out to get you
Illegal spying??? WTF are you on about?

You can love freedom all you want. If you choose to live free, expect someone to take your life sooner than later.