Usenext

[zim]

bs... they are just a scam... not a sting.

lol

[Midnitepoet]

Yeah. Strange someone is posting that..

Anyhow I gotta see when they put the charge back to the card

[MrFredPFL]

lol great link, scratch. i especially enjoyed this bit of wisdom:

Usenext has got a German legal prosecutor in their team!!!
As we all know, internet-sharing is illegal...
Being an admin at Usenext this fine gentleman prosecutor
has access to your IP-ddress and thus to your shared files!!!

priceless

[tm,]

Anyone else wanting a laugh should click the link below

http://www.unlocker-forums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=35827

... and one of the laughs is this statement:

usenext ... its the only all in one "for idiots" newsgroup service available.

Maybe we need to start spreading the word about services like Easynews ... if only more people knew about web-interfaced binary download sites - of which there are many - these "idiots" might have avoided being scammed by UseneXT.

[jamespcon]

Hello,
I am new to this forum and joined after reading this board. I too joined UseNext and cancelled within the 14 days free trial. I did get the first cancellation e-mail like julesam, but still haven't received any like the other two. My question is this: Do you usually receive the other e-mails immediately following this or after the date the first e-mail says your contract ends. It was never said what became of julesam's situation either, so I didn't know if he was ever charged. Thanks for any help.

[Suplyndmnd]

I know this is kinda keeping an old subject going but i need to add this so maybe people can take advantage of it.

There are "credit cards" that are prepaid that work wonders against fraudulent companies like UseNext seems to be. The one I use is greendot credit card. You can check them out at greendotonline(dot)com. The inital cost is like 7.95ish (maybe more but only a couple bucks) and you can put anywhere from 20 to 500 bucks onto the card for a 4.95 charge. There is, also a monthly charge of like 4.95. I know it sounds like a lot of charges but it's fairly comparable to normal credit cards except that if you sign up for services like UseNext they cant just charge the card. The money has to be there or they don't get their money. And there's not any "Overdraft" attempt charges and shit like debit cards may have.

Again, this isn't a "shill" as some have put lol as greendot isn't the only company out there, this is just the only one I know of (and use). The reason I use this is to cut down on stuff like this happening. And they do fight for you if someone takes money off without your approval. I already had to go through that. They wound up giving my money back and going at it with the company to reimburse them.

Just use google and i'm sure you'll find a lot of these type of cards but you can get them in CVS (maybe Eckerd) and can get the reloads there as well as some gas stations. They got a location finding thing on the main site.

[dieusenet]

I don’t know if anyone had this happen but I did the Usenet trial and they said only a dollar to check my credit card
and I used the program then canceled right away on the same night so I did not use my trial for long.

Plus im only 16 years old I have a joined account with my mom and Those Mother Fuckers ripped me for $35
do I have the right to file a fraud claim

does anybody know how to contact them if not what do you think I should do?

ASAP

[Aaron.Walkhouse]

Have your parents call the credit card company and reverse the illegal charge.

[UsenextSucks]

They really are the most expensive Usenet provider out there, and the most shady one.

They have representatives whose only job seems to be to go on as many torrents as possible and comment "lol, who uses torrents anymore? haven't they heard of usenext?". I have seen it countless times on different torrents, which is what finally prompted me to check out their website (combined with their adverts on loads of torrent sites, with text like "is this file on usenext? click here to get higher download speeds").

At first I thought they were more than just a usenet provider; I thought that perhaps they did the hard job of indexing and cataloging file bundles manually and ensuring quality (using the NZB format) but what they actually do is not worth the service; they just index things by post title and author and bundle things that way, and their per-file commenting system is crap since all of the comments are in GERMAN so unless you speak german you have no idea if what you are downloading is good. They provide NO added value over any other usenet provider (paired with one of countless free clients that make downloading easy), especially not bundles like the CREATORS of the NZB format (newzbin.com) who actually do manual indexing using loads of contributors and who can team you up with GIGANEWS (or any other provider of your choosing) and give you a way to get verified high quality .nzb-managed downloads, complete with NFOs and screenshots before you download.

Speaking of downloading, usenext's binary and text retention aren't up to par compared to services like giganews. Giga: 1701 days for text, 200 days for binary, 99%+ completion. Usenext: 1000 days for text, 120 days for binary. Not to mention that for the price of the per-gigabyte limited-download usenext plans you get an UNLIMITED DOWNLOAD plan from giganews.

So, what did I find out when I was checking out Usenext? Well, first off their front page says "Try your RISK-FREE 14 day trial." (note how it says risk-free instead of free), and once you click on that you are brought to a page where they ask for your personal details (title, first name, last name, street address, zip code, city, country and email). At the bottom of the page is an additional checkbox that asks if you want spam ("Yes, I would like to get free download volume and obtain interesting information from UseNeXT.") which I naturally unchecked.

After you click "Next" you are brought to a page where you are shown a fake receipt saying "UseNeXT Free-Trial subscription (18.02.2008 bis 03.03.2008) $0.00 (0 % Sales tax included.) Sales tax: $0.00 --- Total: $0.00 / 0,00 €" and then you are asked to enter your credit card details, "If it's a free trial, why do you need my credit card? Once your free trial has ended, your membership will be automatically renewed so you can continue the service without interruption. Your credit card will never be charged during your free trial, and you can cancel at any time.". (they actually highlighted this in bold themselves!)

Fine enough I guess, and at the end of that page is a very short contract which you agree to and then that's that, all done, right? NO! I actually read the contract and this is what it said, highlighting the criminal passages in red, and the bold text is what they had highlighted themselves:

1. I am of legal age.
2. By sending this form I submit a binding offer. This offer is accepted (conclusion of the contract) when I receive an e-mail of confirmation.
The contract enables me to:


a) Test UseNeXT for the next 2 weeks and download up to 3 Gigabyte for free!.
b) Unless I cancel within the test period, or upgrade to a different subscription package, I agree to join for only $11.63*/8.36 Euro per month - for a period of 12 months and get access to 15 Gigabytes download volume for each month. I understand that I may cancel at any time, such that my subscription is not renewed upon expiry. I acknowledge that unless I wish for my account to be automatically renewed for a further service period, I must provide notice of my wish not to renew, at least one day before the end date of the current term.

3. I have read through the terms and conditions and agree to join UseNeXT subject to these terms.
4. Right of withdrawal: I can withdraw my declaration directed on the conclusion of the contract within two weeks in written form without giving any reasons (e.g. using the support form, post, fax or online in the member area). The time allowed starts at the earliest with the receipt of this indoctrination. To ensure the time allowed for your withdrawal the duly dispatch of your withdrawal is sufficient. The withdrawal must be sent to:

Aviteo Ltd.
Gainsborough House
Customer Care
81 Oxford Street
London W1D 2EU
Great Britain

Fax: +49-700-873639813
Please note that this number's prefix depends on the country you live in. A list of prefix codes can be found under "Support Hotline".

Support form: http://usenext.de/index.cfm?DL=sf
Member area: http://usenext.de

Exlusion of right of withdrawal: My right of withdrawal expires ahead of time if the execution of the service was started with my explicit approval or if I have started the execution myself (e.g. by downloading).
Effects of withdrawal: In case of an effective withdrawal both side's efforts have to be granted aback and incurred use (e.g. interests) has to be restored should the situation arise.

YES! YOU READ THAT RIGHT!

At the end of the contract they've hidden a clause that says that THE SECOND that you begin downloading ONE BYTE you have removed your right to WITHDRAW FROM THE DEAL! AND THAT IS THE MOMENT THEY CHARGE YOU FOR ONE YEAR OF DOWNLOADS!

THIS IS NO FUCKING TRIAL, THIS IS FUCKING CRIMINAL!

This is where I closed the page and said to myself "FUCK YOU USENEXT!".

A few days later I received an email saying "Oh hi there, it seems you didn't follow through on the contract so here is a free account giving you 3 gigabytes worth of download without the need to enter your credit card details."

I decided to try the service and it was shit! The client brought up so many low quality search results that it was laughable, and the speeds were nowhere up to par with better news providers.

FUCK USENEXT!

[tvrohit]

UseNext is indeed a scam and one of my friends has been a victim and lost about 60 GBP(British Pounds). Also I have noticed that websites like fullreleases.com are also scams. All I did was put my name in the search fiels and the website has shown softwares in my name which in reality do not exis and also i typed in 000000 and even this returned a software. Fullreleases.com first asked me to sign-up for an adult website and then using the confirmation e-mail I would receive I had to activate my fullreleases.com account. So please be aware of such websites which ask you to sign-up for an adult website and using the confirmation mail to activate your account. These websites will take your money and you will receive nothing in return. I was very lucky that one of my friends told me about usenext and I personally found out that fullreleases.com is a scam and there are lot of such websites please be careful and take good care of our hard earned money.

[ockymofo]

I just signed up for the 14 day fre trial, with the site claiming they WOULD NOT charge my card UNTIL AFTER the 14 day trial period and of course there's a bloody charge for 82 euro the next day!!

I sent a support request and it came back saying there are 328 tickets and they'll get back to me in 32 hours. Yeah, right.

I called my bank and I will dispute the charge but that probably won't work. But I'm so not going to pay it, don't care what the bank says.

I know, I know my own bloody fault for not researching but damn, I'm so irritated!!! ARRGGHHHH!!

USENEXT IS A SCAM!!!!

Dude!!! ONLY use major credit cards that protect you from internet shitzz... I have had to dispute so much shit with my credit card - I've always got my money back. ebay sucks without a good credit card.

[csn21]

Yep, usenext is shit. I sometimes see posts from their server, afaik they have only ONE peer, news-service.com.. I am on giganews and their posts always go news.usenext.de > news.news-service.com > other peers.

Shitty server.

[penguin15793]

lol this guys getting owned

ASTRAWEB FTW

[scubascythan]

Use giganews or newshosting.

I've used both by switching between the two every few months, never had an issue. Oh and they've always had 100% uptime for me and customer service such as cancel subscription works within minutes.

[meandthadevil]

Okay so I would have assumed that such a big site might attract arguments from both sides of the asile on the usenext debate, but as i can see other than mister Shilly McShillerson no one has defended it at all. Allow me to be the first.

I've been using usenext for over a year now and have been satisfied with the service. I was never once charged without my consent and the only complaint i have as far as billing goes is the considerably confusing page where you chose your download volume.

In my experience their customer service department has also done a good/timely job with my queries considering the massive amount of people using their service. IMO they are no more shady than most porn sites which will also continue to charge your card monthly unless you cancel at the appropriate time.

I have used other services which required the use of a program such as newsleecher and I found it to be too time consuming/labor intensive for my taste. Usenext is a one step process in most cases, find the filegroup you want with the built in search, click download wizard and you're done. If you're iffy about a particular file you can read comments and even preview most of the video files with the usenext front end.

The usenext service gave me exactly what i was looking for, an easy to use interface with integrated downloading/repariring/decompression of files and lightning fast download speeds(I consistently get 600kb/s which is many times faster than any other type of downloading i've ever done other than direct FTP), And I don't mind paying a little bit of a premium for its sheer ease of use.

If anyone can direct me to a service that offers the same user friendly interface at a lower price I'll jump ship but until then i'll happily give them my 12 bucks a month for 15 gigs of 600kb/s downloads.

So quit drinkin your haterade and if you want an easy usenet solution check out usenext but be responsible and pay attention to the terms and conditions when you are giving out your credit card info not only on the usenext site but any place that you give out your financial info, cause while i don't think it's a scam i also think that most companies wouldn't think twice about shafting those who don't read the fine print.

[TorrentMama]

first of all you are probably a shill. no right minded person would defend usenext. but lets pretend I am wrong. I could be after all... people still use kazaa as unimaginable as that is.

If anyone can direct me to a service that offers the same user friendly interface at a lower price I'll jump ship but until then i'll happily give them my 12 bucks a month for 15 gigs of 600kb/s downloads.

just wait until you try to "jump ship" ... if you are honest, you'll be back on this thread screaming about how they won't cancel your service or how they cancelled it but charged you 100 bucks.. or some other dumb shit. you won't get out of the plan without being ripped off somehow. secondly, 600kb/s is slow. I wouldn't PAY for a max of 600kb/s unless 600 was my max down anyway. but that couldn't be so since you alluded to ftp sharing.

So quit drinkin your haterade

ok, so people who have been scammed and ripped off are drinking haterade? wow. that was fresh. this just supports that you are a shill. any normal person would show concern if they are doing business with a company that has so many complaints lodged against them. But not you. You seem to think they are all drunk on hate. that's logical. yeah.

you've made one post here and it's to support usenext. if I were an admin I'd ban you seeing as it's clear that you are only here to spread misinformation.

[meandthadevil]

wow. thanks for the warm welcome to slyck.com TorrentMama!

you've made one post here and it's to support usenext. if I were an admin I'd ban you seeing as it's clear that you are only here to spread misinformation.

No wonder you're not an admin as you would obviously abuse the power given to you. Maybe this is just the first thread i've thought i had something worth adding.

just wait until you try to "jump ship" ... if you are honest, you'll be back on this thread screaming about how they won't cancel your service or how they canceled it but charged you 100 bucks.. or some other dumb shit. you won't get out of the plan without being ripped off somehow.

I have actually canceled my service before because i received an email first informing me that in 7 days my account would be charged for additional download volume then another informing me i had 3 days to cancel or change my account. Not having any money in my account i canceled. No bogus charges.

secondly, 600kb/s is slow. I wouldn't PAY for a max of 600kb/s unless 600 was my max down anyway. but that couldn't be so since you alluded to ftp sharing.

Maybe i've just got shitty deep south cable internet service but 600kb is the highest average speed i've ever had...
What kind of speeds do you get?
and yes the ftp sharing was considerably faster but that was also on a T3 connection which was not my personal home connection nor was i downloading the types of files i do from usenet.

I'm no shill, and i'm not trying to say that no one has gotten a raw deal from usenext , I'm just saying that not everyone, myself for example has a bad experience. I'm not spreading misinformation either i just happen to be a(the only?) satisfied customer adding his input to the mix.

I am curious though with all those quotes how come you didn't have something snappy to say about this piece of level headed advice which applies to all internet pay sites including usenext.

be responsible and pay attention to the terms and conditions when you are giving out your credit card info not only on the usenext site but any place that you give out your financial info, cause while i don't think it's a scam, i also think that most big companies wouldn't think twice about shafting those who don't read the fine print.

Let me also ask this one last thing. Have you tried the service and been burned personally or are you just ripping me to shreds based on comments of other anonymous internet users?

[MrFredPFL]

welcome to slyck, meand. i have no opinion about usenext, other than to say far more anonymous internet people dislike it than like it from what i have seen. after all, you yourself are another anonymous internet user too

but i would like to comment about one thing:

nor was i downloading the types of files i do from usenet.

data is data. one file type does not transfer at an intrinsically faster rate than another.

[meandthadevil]

Howdy mr.fred and thanks for the genuinely warm welcome to slyck....

I agree with you that data is data, that was not the point of that comment as i was simply trying to respond to TorrentMama's comment of

I wouldn't PAY for a max of 600kb/s unless 600 was my max down anyway. but that couldn't be so since you alluded to ftp sharing.

that though i have used FTP sharing before it was not for the same purpose as i use usenet nor was i using the same connection as i do currently.

[IAmTheGodThor]

Hi, I just wanted to chime into the whole "usenext is crap" thing with my own expereince as of this very evening:

I signed up at 18:00 by credit card. I changed my mind thanks to a friend I was talking to via IM - the conversation basically went soimething like...

[ME] "Hang on a minute, I'm trying to sign up for a free trial with a usenet provider"
[HIM] "Who? Linky."
[ME] "[link] Usenext"
[HIM] "WHOA THAR FOOL! YOU WANNA END UP BROKE?! WHERE'S YA BRAINS AT?!"
[ME] "UH? wutsBRAINS?"

So he pointed me here and I did some reading. 30 minutes later I'd seen enough and went to get my confirmation email so I could use the details to sign in and cancel.

At 19:30 I phoned the credit card company (Amazon) and told them I lost the card yesterday, please terminate the account, etc. It turns out that even though I had not even downloaded the software, let alone any data I had been charged TWICE £2.50 at around 18:30, which was about the time I signed in to cancel the account!

Note that they don't even say anything about having to make a confirmation debit or anyting unless you use PayPal, which I didn't.

Hopefully I now won't be charged any more. Amazon refunded the two payments and have said no one can do anything more with that account as they changed the whole thing, not just the card. I hope they're right.

Let this be another example to add to the millions. Shame on me for not coming and reading Slyck first.

On a side note - it's interesting that Deomonoid had their PayPal service closed on the grounds that PayPal viewed filesharing as illegal by nature, and yet Usenext are getting away with taking said payments - do PayPal know they are being used by a usenet provider that openly advocates sharing music and videos in a much more blatent way than Demonoid ever did?

[superalymac]

PayPal is the best option for any newsgroup like UseNeXT as you can cancel at any stage and there request that you are about to pay whom ever unless you give access to pay on a regular basis but even this can be cancelled

[superalymac]

First a bit grovel: -
I just joined this illustrious newsgroup after reading this great art icicle.

Second a huge piece of humour: -I’m one of those idiots that have successfully wasted vast amounts of funding within the UseNeXT service and for a very considerable time.

Third a gasp of disbelief: -
That being I burn off around 50.00 plus euros a month “what” I here you cry and ”eh no one uses that amount its about 300 Gb plus or more”.
Well the answer I’m sorry to say is yes it is and more (mind I have the system to handle this).

Fourth and a real one to chew on: -
As said I burn in access over 50 plus euros a month and this month I got through a vast 120 Gb by the 3rd of the month and then had business to see to.
I had been away some 26 days off of UseNeXT and when I came back guess what I found.

If I did not pay 29 euros within the next 10 days for the 88Gb I still had “YES HAD” still to burn off, they would suspend the accounts and or close it completely??

“now get your teeth around that “I had to pay 29 euros to pay for the 88Gb I had ALREADY PAID FOR”
I just sent them an email on a UseNeXT .com I happen to own (well pay rights for) requesting how this was as for the previous month I had burned off no less than 460Gb which as you have a 30 period for each 150Gb I pay for, it was a bit “what the F’n hell are you playing at” email and I have just burned it off.

[TorrentMama]

On a side note - it's interesting that Deomonoid had their PayPal service closed on the grounds that PayPal viewed filesharing as illegal by nature, and yet Usenext are getting away with taking said payments - do PayPal know they are being used by a usenet provider that openly advocates sharing music and videos in a much more blatent way than Demonoid ever did?

possibly usenext users who paid with paypal would have limited groups. but I don't know this is true. In any case, paypal is very particular about doing business with usenet providers and it has a firm policy of not allowing transactions for goods or services deemed "adult" in nature. If it is allowing usenext users unfettered access then it would be because of an oversite on paypals end.

[superalymac]

To meandthadevil –
I agree totally it is not labour intensive UseNeXT and it is simply a case of request and get….but the wise man says….
“For even sleeping dog will wake and bite at one time when not provoked”

UseNeXT is like them all, bar this bit of stupidity to a heavy user (never knock a good paying customer, it’s bad business ethics) they have been good when they cocked up.
Even once when I did they gave me a 10Gb extra (shame it cocked up my heavy 150Gb recharge allocation and I had to again request but did not take there 10Gb sorry up, sorry but no thanks).
Yeh the admin is not to bad but as said they can blow it big time…me, I’m just a little on the peeved side of “you what!” at what they just did.
As said “pay for what you just paid for” bad enough wiping the odd 1Gb here and there off by mistake (well that what they say)..but 88Gb!! meandthadevil it will happen at least once and then when it does then say they are ok!

[superalymac]

To TorrentMama

PayPal have no policy on what you do or don’t do on the net as long as you have a current bank balance and can cover each request
Muck it up once they will drop you and close you account!
As for file sharing???
If that was so they would have closed mine long, long ago…mind I move a hell of a lot of funding through them?

But they have no policy as such but can find out?