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BD+ Unbreakable for 10 Years says Richard Doherty of Envisio

Postby zbeast » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:33 pm

Story : http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=871371

In the latest issue of HMM Richard Doherty a Media analyist with Envisioneering Group says " BD +, Unlike AACS, Which suffered a partial Hack Last Year, Won't likely be breached for 10 years." Doherty said "and if so The damage would effect one film and one player."
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Postby anonymity22 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:40 pm

i call BS+

I give it 10 months before every bd+ title is fully copyable.
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Postby LANjackal » Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:44 pm

Wow. Now that is just asking for it.

Doesn't he know that only Linux evangelists and BSD loonies are allowed to make "unbreakable" claims? :lol:
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Postby Andu » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:11 pm

Yea such a claim will probably draw attention from a much wider circle than that that is currently interested in breaking these DRM schemes. You just don't do stupid things like teasing a scene that thrives on breaking the unbreakable. Will be interesting to see how long BD+ can last in such an environment.
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Postby anonymity22 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:37 pm

This coming from a guy who probably has no real idea about how BD+ even protects content...


I don't doubt it will take time, but as mentioned, they basically called out EVERY CRACKER in the world.
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Postby Grizz » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:19 am

Sounds like a challenge to me.

He probably just shortened the time it would have stayed un-cracked. It's going to get triple the attention now.
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Postby IceCube » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:30 am

The thing is, will there be anything released in BD+? Remember, the Microsoft DRM was considered unbreakable for the longest time. Nothing broke the DRM Microsoft had offered up to when FairUse4WM.exe was released.

So what took so long for it to be broken? After you broke the DRM, what would you get in the first place? Not a whole lot. It was worthless to break the DRM until Napster got a whole bunch of music in their catalog's. At that point, the DRM was promptly broken and re-broken on every "fix"

Ever since that whole thing happened, I'm more convinced that these people saying, "Yeah, my DRM is unbreakable" doesn't get people interested in breaking the DRM, it's the content inside that makes it interesting. What's the point of breaking open a new lock for your stuff when you realize you're not getting anything in the first place anyway?

This whole "calling out the hacker" is more like icing on the cake and these guys get to be quoted after the DRM is used, then broken afterwards when enough people start buying into the DRM schemes in the first place.
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Postby anonymity22 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:31 am

icecube, Very inciteful and I agree.

However, keep this in mind. If bd+ gets broken in a few months, even with no titles out, what will that tell the content industry. They have already invested bazillions in this and would be utterly floored at how fast it gets cracked. While I agree, they would maybe then change their tactic, there really is no full proof way to prevent disk piracy and the chase is the fun for crackers. There will always be a non-protected copy leaked somewhere anyways. What happens when bd+ gets cracked? I don't think they even know what they'd do next.
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Postby jokster » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:15 am

we'll wait and see what happens over at doom9, and i would check before the 10 years are up - just in case
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Postby craftycorner » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:48 am

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