SuprNova.org: The Story of a Legend

[salted wounds]

free?

You paid for your computer.

You paid for your OS to run that computer.

You paid for your ISP and connection hardware.

You paid for blank media for you downloads.

You paid for both your upload and download bandwidth used on the torrents.

You paid with your time spent downloading.

And you take a risk of getting busted for every download...


not free...

You were gonna buy a computer no matter what, and for what reason, so it was free since your doing something else that it can be used for.

OS came with the computer, OS is also on the internet. So its free.

ISP gave free router, NIC card(ALthough NIC came with the pc, and internet connection was goonna go to waste by just checking email or surfing the web.

Its tons cheaper then paying retail price or 20 bucks for a movie when you could buy a 50 pak dvd-r, and people may watch and listen to what they want on their pc, or possibly store it on a 250 gig hard drive? I dont burn everything i download.

Bandwidth came with the internet line in which it was or would be going to waste no matter what.

My time is freetime, any other time would be working or yard work.

NO risk in being busted on newsgroups or closed BT sites. FOOO SHIZZLE!

Utter Simpleton

[abou105]

there is always risk, when something dodgey is goin on.

[enderbc]

i thought you were lame when you sold out for exeem and i still think you're lame. Like one person said, it's the PEOPLE that make the site, not the owner. You lost sight of that and started to think you were something special. If you had spread things aroung and let others share the resposabilities, the site would have survived, but you got scared and went for the money grab. i knew the site was doomed when you went to pop-up ads.
Now it's time to grow up and learn what people think of lamers with a bad reputation. You'll be lucky to get anything off the ground on the internet now.

[Trent]

Suprnova was my first venture into the world of P2P & Then radio.

I became a mod for Suprnova in early 2003. I have grown to know Sloncek reasonably well. Sloncek is not a politcal person he didnt set out on some big crusade to take over the world with P2P (IMO). Having watched Suprnova develop all he ever seemed to do was try to do something he enjoyed doing. Thats all everyone ever did. Sloncek avoided the political game playing that went on behind the scenes and also kicked a few asses when they got to big for there own boots.

I miss Supnrova, its community & the friends that were made there. I was very active on the IRC back on IRCCHAT, Suprnova IRC and laterly P2P-IRC (both of the later two I had a hand in running) (of course it should be noted that P2P-IRC was made almost exclusively what it is today by people like Chasingsol, Ambrosia & Loki to name but a few). I was also a DJ on Suprnova Radio. Until its demise back in 04. I then Formed NovaStream Radio - keeping our very strong links with Suprnova.org and as you may have heard I handed over the reigns of Novastream.Org about 4 - 5 months ago. Kez, the second radio boss, decided, in conjuction with the majority of admins, to pull the plug on Novastream Radio not that long ago.

Sloncek was very quickly turned on by the very people who used to support him. I find it sad to read some of the comments in here about the people who would stab him in the back as quickly as look at him.

I would like to say this "Sloncek - thank you for all your hard work, putting up with so much crap, As a mod I know that thanks is hard to come by. Special Thanks for your continued Support for Novastream Radio, which had your support up until it came off the air. I have visited some of the other sites mentioned in these comments.. I would admit they have some destinct advantages over the old Suprnova.org format but the one thing they lack, again IMO, is the solid Community.

Trent

(below is my different titles in chronological order)
Suprnova.org Mod
Suprnova Radio DJ
Suprnova IRC admin
Novastream Radio Boss
P2P-IRC admin
Novastream Forum Admin
Newnova.org Forum Admin

[MrFredPFL]

welcome to slyck, trent

and, as i'm sure you're well aware, there's a large group of people who not only expect people to work hard for the filesharing community for free, but also expect them to do it to their own specifications. and when one of the people who have otherwise donated so much of their time and effort to the community, often at high risk to themself, do anything that does not meet with the approval of these people, they are immediately turned on by many and called assholes and worse. sad is a damn good way to describe it. sloncek is just one of many targets of this kind of attitude.

[enderbc]

We too put a lot into suprnova over the years it was online. After donkax bit the dust it was the one real viable choicce. Though we were never mods, we uploaded plenty of files and took pride in the site and what sloncek made it. It's because we identified so much with it that we were shocked to see pop-ups and casino ads suddenly spring up all over the place. We had always equated pop-ups and casino ads with the lowest form of life on the internet. When stating our misgivings to a mod we were basically told to shaddup, get a grip and install a pop-up blocker. We never ONCE recieved a posative reply from a mod there. The only responses ever gotten were snide and insulting.
Yes, the site was a wonderful thing and i appreciated it and respect all the work sloncek put into it. But the little people who put their heart and soul into it with no recognition were just as responsible for it's success and we were treated like shit.
So don't paint me as a lame ass scumbag who can do nothing but back-stab. We paid our dues and got little in response.

[MrFredPFL]

Now it's time to grow up

it's good advice. for many.

[Trent]

We too put a lot into suprnova over the years it was online. After donkax bit the dust it was the one real viable choicce. Though we were never mods, we uploaded plenty of files and took pride in the site and what sloncek made it. It's because we identified so much with it that we were shocked to see pop-ups and casino ads suddenly spring up all over the place. We had always equated pop-ups and casino ads with the lowest form of life on the internet. When stating our misgivings to a mod we were basically told to shaddup, get a grip and install a pop-up blocker. We never ONCE recieved a posative reply from a mod there. The only responses ever gotten were snide and insulting.
Yes, the site was a wonderful thing and i appreciated it and respect all the work sloncek put into it. But the little people who put their heart and soul into it with no recognition were just as responsible for it's success and we were treated like shit.
So don't paint me as a lame ass scumbag who can do nothing but back-stab. We paid our dues and got little in response.

Well I can honestly say I never spoke to anyone with your nick but you may have been using a different alias. I can understand where your coming from but I can equally understand the mods points too. When adverts were put on the page, to help fund what was a very expensive operation, the mods were flooded with why are you doing this and lots of insults about money grabbing etc.. As I am sure you can imagine this became very annoying. I am sure that if Sloncek where in here he would thank each and everyone of you from Users - Posters - mods & sponcers for all the support they gave Suprnova. Suprnova was more than a torrent site it was a community and every member of the community had a part to play.

I thank you for your contribution to what was a very memorable time.

Trent

[zim]

Ahhh dont give me that bs... Suprnova wasnt good or great.. its claim to fame is biggest of the first. And even that is up for debate. I mean hell they didnt even have their own trackers after the first year!

The users put up with alot of CRAP from suprnova and we let alot of it slide and didnt abandon the site in droves even when you started in with the pop-up ads that also distributed trojans.

We put up with ALOT of bull. Right up until it was obvious he only cared about the money and started exeem. And abandoned the community and users who made him.

We dont owe him any loyalites.

Its the users that make the site. not the owner. As the total failure of exeem more than proves.

[Trent]

Zim,

I would completely disagree with you. Tell me how many torrent sites do you decry at the moment for having pop-ups? The sinple fact is it costs allot of money to do what sloncek was doing. If sloncek wanted to make allot of money he could have Suprnova a members only site and charge people for access. At its peak Suprnova was getting 5 + million hits a day ( i dont know the exact figure but thats the least) The servers it was run on where high end servers, it had to be, yes some servers were donated but not all. Sloncek made a good business decision to place adverts, as evidanced by the fact that every other torrent site in the world, almost, has followed suit. If he had not put adverts then we would have talking about suprnova's demise along time ago.

I am sorry Zim but I have no time for your arguement. I hope something in what I have said has made you think otherwise

[zim]

Nice.

Completely sidestep the issue that the adverts you were using. Were INFECTING PEOPLE.

And give me some bs about how it was so huge and its so hard to run a server.

Pretty much SOP for suprnova staff.


Alot of people got banned over that issue. Maybe.. If you hadnt pissed those people off... exeem might have been a success.

Karma. I love it.

[Trent]

Nice.

Completely sidestep the issue that the adverts you were using. Were INFECTING PEOPLE.

And give me some bs about how it was so huge and its so hard to run a server.

Pretty much SOP for suprnova staff.


Alot of people got banned over that issue. Maybe.. If you hadnt pissed those people off... exeem might have been a success.

Karma. I love it.

Zim - Exeem was a project that sloncek went on to do. I personally never pissed anyone off. The number of people I banned you could count on one hand. We only ever had one ad that caused any problems. Anyway I can see you would debate the matter all night. I however will not. The simple fact is I understand slonceks motivation and support him. You do not. Your choice. I dont care. Everyone is allowed an opinion. and in my opinion your opinion is flawed.. I am sure you will same the same about mine. Good night Zim

[chasingsol]

I'll start off by thanking Trent for the mention in his reply. You are missed around P2P-IRC but we understood your decision in needing to move on. With your help we've become the largest P2P themed IRC network on the planet (and without filesharing on the network too!).

I too was a SuprNova mod, although I joined towards the end of SuprNova's existence. The community is missed, but unfortunately all good things must eventually come to an end.

In regards to Zim's comments about "being infected", we certainly did hear about the malicious popups. Unfortunately, as is often the case when you utilize a third party for an advertizing feed for your site, you are at the third party's mercy. The complaints did not go unheeded, that advertizer was removed. Of course, one bad ad was too many, but it unfortunately happened.

I too have been close to sloncek for some time, although of late I haven't spoken to him as much as we used to. I even hosted SuprNova.org after the torrent site shut down and initially hosted the forums for his P2P news project.

I remember SuprNova fondly for the great times the staff had and for the users that cared enough to contribute to the community, especially on SuprNova IRC. I did my part to keep the IRC community alive which lives on today as a focal point for the P2P community, while others went on to keep the pieces that meant the most to them going too. Indeed, because of SuprNova, I met my future wife, ambrosia, the most prolific torrent moderator of SuprNova.

Sloncek, thank you.

Regards,

chasingsol
P2P-IRC Network Administrator

[Snow123]

I dont care. Everyone is allowed an opinion. and in my opinion your opinion is flawed.. I am sure you will same the same about mine.

[multivariable]

I dont care. Everyone is allowed an opinion. and in my opinion your opinion is flawed.. I am sure you will same the same about mine.

In my opinion, you probably should check the date of the post you're replying to.

[midbc]

Supr LoL

[Xeno]

Heh, I was wondering why there was a sudden interest in SuprNova, though to be honest I did kind of enjoy rereading about the history...

Still, I wouldn't expect that guy to argue back anytime soon...

[Psycho Ced]

Snow123
that 1, 2, 3 bumped dead threads.

[MrFredPFL]

Snow123
that 1, 2, 3 bumped dead threads.

indeed. none of these were compelling reasons to bump threads that were one to two years old. read the forum rules please, snow.