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HOW TO: Setup Usenet binary downloading on Ubuntu

Postby LANjackal » Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:43 am

I wrote this tutorial as just about every post (elsewhere) I've seen regarding the above involves the user tangling with the command line. If you grew up on GUIs like me, you probably absolutely detest dealing with the terminal and just want something you can click through. That's what this post is about.

That said, please bear in mind that this may not result in the most absolutely efficient way of dealing with the subject matter. That title probably belongs to Hellanzb. Hellanzb requires command line encounters, though.

Platform Details

OS: (X)ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn 32-bit (the guide should work for Ubuntu and Kubuntu, however)
CPU: x86

List of Needed Applications

  1. KLibido or Pan
  2. PyPar2
  3. RAR
  4. Xarchiver (already installed by default)


Steps

With that lengthy preamble, we can now begin the simple point-and-click process I mentioned at the outset. I won't go into the details of specifically setting up each program as, not only is it simple and intuitive, it's very likely that if you've reached this topic, you're probably already capable of doing so yourself. If you've done binary downloading from Usenet via NZB before, you probably know that there are 3 basic software functions/steps involved:

1 - Downloading the binaries

This is handled by a newsreader. I recommend KLibido or Pan. Both can be installed via Synaptic. Pan is more fully featured, but if you're really interested in binary downloading only, KLibido's your ticket. Both support multiple servers and multiple connections per server.

2 - Checking binary integrity using PAR files

Use PyPar2, a frontend for the par2 CLI utility. It can also be found on the repositories or downloaded directly from their website as a .deb

3 - Decompressing RAR files

a - Install RAR via Synaptic.

b - Use Xarchiver (ships with Ubuntu, serves as a frontend to the RAR application) to decompress downloaded RAR files:

- Applications -> Accessories -> Xarchiver
- Click "Open"
- Browse to archive location and click "Open". Note that this will NOT extract the archive, it only generates a list of files the archive contains
- In the generated list, select the files you want extracted and click "Extract"

And you're done. No, this is not an all-in-one solution, but it involves zero command line/terminal use :). Also, Step 3 is pretty much how you can handle RAR files in Ubuntu via GUI for any purpose, not just newsgroups.

Enjoy!
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Postby K » Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:56 pm

nice tutorial!

This is exactly the setup I use on ubuntu. PyPar2 is much better than going to command line each time.

Have you tried alt.binz with wine? Apparently it's compatible.
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Postby LANjackal » Tue May 01, 2007 3:33 am

K wrote:Have you tried alt.binz with wine? Apparently it's compatible.

Thanks for the compliment and the idea, but I generally avoid emulators on principle. That's just me.
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Postby dolgy » Thu May 17, 2007 5:27 am

thanks for this LANjackal. :) I'm playing around in Ubuntu right now and the guide was helpful.

I'm used to Newsleecher and so Pan seems like an extremely poor application. I will try klibido later but it was an extremely large install in comparison (70+ MB). I guess that package installs other KDE related files too.

A question: How do I associate .nzb files with Pan?
right click > open with only lets me "select an application to open "****.nzb" and others of type "XML document" " but I want Pan to handle just .nzb not other xml type documents.
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Postby HouseCrowd » Thu May 17, 2007 7:52 am

Nice one LJ!

*stuckied it* :D
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Postby kditty » Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:51 am

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=169749

HOWTO: NZB, PAR and UNRAR all-in-one


download nzb to folder, program reads nzb, downloads rars and pars(if needed) checks-repairs pars, then unrars... you do nothing pretty much!

some reason i cant post links!?
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Postby HouseCrowd » Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:15 am

kditty wrote:
some reason i cant post links!?


It's an anti-spam measure for new users and/or users who have not made many posts.

Link repaired. Thanks :)
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Postby lordfoul » Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:46 pm

nice LJ
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Postby 939841 » Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:28 am

I've run Alt.Binz (as I'm pretty much an Alt.Binz fangirl) on wine, and I've got to say I'm not impressed. It will typically run fine for several days, but eventually will stop loading. You must then reinstall it in wine to get it to load again. :(

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Postby bababooboo » Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:26 pm

here's an exhaustive tutorial about usenet binaries with Linux :
http://altbin.net/2005/12/usenet-binari ... orial.html
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Postby Watain » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:04 am

awesome guide LANjackal, another reason for me to install ubuntu on one of my computers :D
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Re: HOW TO: Setup Usenet binary downloading on Ubuntu

Postby lordfoul » Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:18 am

Just a note Wine is not an emulator. lol Good stuff none the less
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Re: HOW TO: Setup Usenet binary downloading on Ubuntu

Postby LANjackal » Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:40 am

lordfoul wrote:Just a note Wine is not an emulator. lol Good stuff none the less
Just like LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder?

OK touche. What is Wine, then? I'm too lazy for Wikipedia.
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Postby MrFredPFL » Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:50 am

:lol: this is one of those great nerd war topics :D

http://winehq.org/faq

Why do some people write WINE and not Wine?
They are using the acronym "Wine Is Not an Emulator", the original name for the project. While recursive acronyms are clever, there really is no point to the capital letters. They look ugly, so please use the simpler, current name of the project: Wine. It's what we use.

Is Wine an emulator? There seems to be an argument.
When users think of an emulator, they tend to think of things like Super Nintendo emulators or virtualization software. This is the wrong way to think about Wine - Wine runs Windows applications in essentially the same way Windows does. There is no inherent loss of speed due to "emulation" when using Wine, nor is there a need to open Wine before running your application.
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Re: HOW TO: Setup Usenet binary downloading on Ubuntu

Postby lordfoul » Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:54 am

Hey Fred, I'm glad for the research on the behalf of us to lazy to do it. I'm embarrassed to admit I had to look it up after my post; I'd heard it so many times over the years it was rote. Like I said, good stuff none the less. LJ take it easy you are wrong more often than you think and not as wrong as you think when you are.
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Re: HOW TO: Setup Usenet binary downloading on Ubuntu

Postby enigmax » Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:13 am

I missed this. Good work LJ
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Re: HOW TO: Setup Usenet binary downloading on Ubuntu

Postby LANjackal » Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:15 am

Thanks for the explanation :)
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Re: HOW TO: Setup Usenet binary downloading on Ubuntu

Postby sabremyth » Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:58 am

For me Hellnzb worked better. Hellanzb has also improved its handling of external programs for unraring and par.
It is not so hard as hellanzb isnt all commandline. Once installed its pretty much drag and drop. Ofcourse it still doesnt retrieve headers for you or allow you to create NZB.
If someone is interested in using Hellanzb, here's what you need. Please correct me if I am wrong as I have installed it only once and then never had to again.

1. Hellanzb installer from their site
2. par2verify or par2cmdline (apt-get search for it)
3. unrar or winrar (apt-get and use the multiverse repos I think)
4. lxsplit (also apt-get search it, not too sure about the name)
4. Zussaweb or HellaPHP (web interface) optional*

since hellanzb scans the nzb directory you just need to save the nzb files there. If everything is setup nicely it doesnt fail to repair/extract and then delete the downloaded parts. It also saves you the trouble of downloading par files as it can skip them first and download just the right par files to fix if needed. Easy on resource consumption, although the external programs can be much higher when in use.

Hope it helps.

@LANjackal - very nice post for the growing number of ubuntu desktop users out there. Thanks.
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Re: HOW TO: Setup Usenet binary downloading on Ubuntu

Postby LANjackal » Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:59 am

sabremyth wrote:For me Hellnzb worked better.
Duh, but Hellanzb requires encounters with the command line, which is both annoying and frustrating for users whose minds work by GUI, such as me. That was the point of the OP. I already acknowledged that Hella' worked better.
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Re: HOW TO: Setup Usenet binary downloading on Ubuntu

Postby sabremyth » Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:46 pm

LANjackal wrote:
sabremyth wrote:For me Hellnzb worked better.
Duh, but Hellanzb requires encounters with the command line, which is both annoying and frustrating for users whose minds work by GUI, such as me. That was the point of the OP. I already acknowledged that Hella' worked better.

Read my post again. :)
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Re: HOW TO: Setup Usenet binary downloading on Ubuntu

Postby LANjackal » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:06 pm

OK
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Re: HOW TO: Setup Usenet binary downloading on Ubuntu

Postby KoolKat » Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:29 pm

Ive been running Wine with Altbinz for about two weeks now, the only problem i have is sometimes the UI will disappear completely even tho the app is still running and doing is job so after it is finished i usually goto the system monitor and shut it down then load it back up and grab another nzb file. I cant stand Pan as i wasnt a fan of agent in the least.

For people who dont know how to use Wine just install it from Synaptic then you all do is click the exe file for Altbinz and yer off, same with HJsplit instead of installing the linux version i just use the windows version. My problem is i am still new to linux so i have no idea how to install and app without a package manager and i havent had the time to look into it as of yet.
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Re: HOW TO: Setup Usenet binary downloading on Ubuntu

Postby sweetpete » Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:17 am

I can't believe everyone is finding it difficult.

I just use SabNzbd the same way I did on windows and it works fine!
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Re: HOW TO: Setup Usenet binary downloading on Ubuntu

Postby kditty » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:14 am

hella nzb is also available for windows, ive used it on xp, vista is hit and miss so i just use newzleecher. whats the closest thing to hellanzb i can use on windows vista?
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Re: HOW TO: Setup Usenet binary downloading on Ubuntu

Postby bmh67wa » Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:12 pm

http://dogtoe.com/2008/03/17/tip-howto- ... ia-cygwin/


I followed this tutorial and installed on a Vista PC. Works fine for me. Be sure that your privileges are elevated to Administrator or it will only install for the current user.
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