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Re: Best Usenet-provider

Postby Benzima » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:08 pm

After a little research and the recent newsgroup reduction/elimination from the major ISPs, I signed up with Ngroup.net.

So far I'm very happy with them. Even with SSL (no extra charge) they consistently max out my 1.8MB/sec FIOS download pipe, and yes, that's Megabytes, 4.6GB in ~ 40 minutes. They have all the groups and the best price ($29.95 for 3 months) I could find for 'Unmetered' as they call its. I could not find anyone that was faster, with unlimited, and SSL.

Combined with my news group reader (Usenet Explorer 2.1.1) and a lifetime subscription with NZBMatrix, I'm all set !!!
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Re: Best Usenet-provider

Postby Orinoco Womble » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:32 am

I'm currently using Astraweb.

While they have 'normal' monthly subscription plans, they also offer a 'pay as you go' option where you pay for a chunk of data (at the moment, US$25 for 110GB) the usage of which is not restricted to a time limit. This is ideal for those who have monthly bandwidth limitations imposed by their ISP, those who are highly selective in their downloads et al.

Astraweb claims the same retention periods as Giganews but the reality, from my experience this last six or so months, is a couple of weeks less. I've had varying success downloading files older than 190 days; so I generally never look beyond 190 days when searching on Binsearch or Newzleech.

Completion rate is excellent and consistent; my own experience is a 100% success rate for downloads less than 190 days old. Of the files I've searched for via Binsearch, I've yet to get a Newsgroup that Astraweb doesn't have.

SSL encryption is standard. Unlimited connections are available on the 'pay as you go' plan and on some of the monthly plans.

I stopped using Giganews myself when they became unreliable. I have no reason to stop using Astraweb exclusively.
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Re: Best Usenet-provider

Postby Paladwyn » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:23 am

Giganews has never been unrealiable for me. However, 25 bucks for a 110GB block does seem kinda high priced. When you can get unlimited with Giganews for 25 bucks...seems high.
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Re: Best Usenet-provider

Postby Orinoco Womble » Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:08 pm

Paladwyn wrote:Giganews has never been unrealiable for me. However, 25 bucks for a 110GB block does seem kinda high priced. When you can get unlimited with Giganews for 25 bucks...seems high.


The point I was making is that Astraweb offers a 'pay as you go' option for those individuals who are 'light' downloaders for whom 110GB may well be representative of the bandwidth that they might consume across many months (not merely 1 month). For example, if it takes me three months to use-up the 110GB then my Premium Usenet provider bill is $25 for three months. If however I have signed up for an 'unlimited' account at a cost of $25 per month, then my bill for a total of 110GB across the same three months would be $75. The bill increase by $25 for each additional month, or part thereof, that it takes to account for the 110GB at issue.

Then of course there are those who live in area's where either the telecommunications infrastructure is slightly backward and/or the access plans available from their local ISP's are severely bandwidth-limited, wherein a total monthly bandwidth allowance might be as 'little' as 60GB, which renders signing-up to an 'unlimited bandwidth' account with a Premium Usenet provider a redundant exercise. In the quoted example of a 60GB ISP account, it would still cost at least $50 (2 months at $25 per month) for the individual to download 110GB.

While it's terrific that people such as yourself has access to apparently unlimited bandwidth via your ISP plan (and, believe me, I'm envious), don't assume that everyone else on the planet necessarily has such an option available to them.

Under the foregoing circumstances, the non-time restricted 110GB for $25 represents exceptional value.

Thanks for your input.

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Re: Best Usenet-provider

Postby Paladwyn » Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:33 pm

I suppose in that sense it would be a better value...I wasn't thinking in that box, I was in the other for long term overall value... as my friend put it, if he downloads a couple movies a month...it's paid for.

I'm a spontaneous downloader, some months I could easilly break 110GB...and other months half that. Depends on what's out there.
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Re: Best Usenet-provider: PowerUsenet.com

Postby jginnane » Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:49 am

I'm hesitant to share this. It's that good... I don't want a bunch of kiddiez clogging the pipes. :-)

http://www.powerusenet.com

Same company that runs giganews.com; unlimited downloads for $10/15 a month, so it costs about half. (They have a different server farm.)

Since Verizon killed the alt.* hierarchy last month, I'd been worried, but the retention, completion, up-time, etc etc. on this provider make Verizon look like a really amateur operation. Which, in retrospect, it was. Vz used to slow to dial-up speed every night, but now, accessing a foreign node gets the full FIOS bandwidth 24/7.

Don't share this past your fave-5. Really. If you're smart enough to ask here, you deserve to know, but it's like finding a poker machine at your local casino that prints money.
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Re: Best Usenet-provider

Postby Orinoco Womble » Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:42 am

Paladwyn wrote:I suppose in that sense it would be a better value...I wasn't thinking in that box, I was in the other for long term overall value... as my friend put it, if he downloads a couple movies a month...it's paid for.

I'm a spontaneous downloader, some months I could easilly break 110GB...and other months half that. Depends on what's out there.


Yes, it's a situation where you're either spoiled for choice or can't find anything for weeks. Still, that's Usenet.

cheers :toast:
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Re: Best Usenet-provider

Postby Paladwyn » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:40 am

We have sucessfully backed up Giganews!! :D
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Re: Best Usenet-provider

Postby stashy » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:35 pm

I agree that Astraweb is about the most bang for the buck right now. One of the longest retentions (aside from Giganews) and still growing. I like the pay_as_you_go plan. The $25 110 gigabyte block comes out to less than 25¢ per gig, and best of all it never expires.
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Re: Best Usenet-provider

Postby bifter » Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:12 pm

Hi,

I've been a long time reader of Slyck - guides, news and forums but just newly registered. Had to comment here as no one had mentioned my provider.

I use both BT and newsgroups and don't download enough to justify a subscription newsgroup account so the block account format suits me best. Anyway I believe I get really good value from Usenet-News.

As their site states they don't spend any money on a fancy Web presence, just a good service. The completion rates, retention and speeds are good (they regularly max out my 4Gb connection). They maintain servers in Europe and the US and sell, for example, 100GB for $20 or 300GB for $66 (that works out at $0.22 per GB!). Given the current exchange rate with the £ this works out great for me! Only 90% of what you download is counted against your account (10% to cover headers).

They don't have a search service but I use NZBs'R'us and BinSearch which are free and more than adequate for my needs. I also use Grabit so the only thing I end up paying for is the GBs I download - but then most Scotsmen are tight as a nun's chuff right?

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Re: Best Usenet-provider

Postby johnnny5 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:49 pm

Very happy with my new 110GB block account from Astraweb.

Best feature: 151 day retention.

UK £14 precisely.

IMO: Astraweb> Usenet-News> Megabitz.

All cost roughly the same amount.
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Re: Best Usenet-provider

Postby Xizer » Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:54 am

Astraweb is easily the best value. 150 day retention which they have been gradually increasing to catch up with Giganews and unlimited downloading for $11/month.

I always max out a 15 Mbps connection with them.
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Re: Best Usenet-provider

Postby x2c667 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:44 pm

i am a big fan of giganews, i pretty much swear by it... plus it has the LONGEST retention
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Re: Best Usenet-provider

Postby goalbird » Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:50 pm

I have used many different usenet providers (hitnews, usenet-news, megabitz, giganews, astraweb, and XLned.), and there is definately a difference in providers. The worst provider was by far megabitz. It seemed alright at first the retention was OK, and the price was good but in was nothing but trouble. It would sporadicly give me severe connection issues, connections would constaintly stall. In August there were even days when it didn't work at all.
Giganews was ok, but the price really isn't worth it.
Astraweb is the best value for your buck. It has great retention 157 days, great speeds (maxed out my 8mbit line), and it cheap. I've never had a single issue with it.

If you're looking for the cheapest usenet access than go with XLned. A full year of XLned with unlimited SSL access is only 26.91 euros, or just over $40.00. The drawback is that it is caped at 2.5mbit (around 300kb, still way faster than torrents), and only has 60 days retention.
There website is quite good, and can be found at http://www.xlned.com/
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Re: Best Usenet-provider

Postby palewook » Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:43 am

After trying to stick with usenetserver.com for awhile, I'm tossing in the towel and going to test out some of the other providers. Usenetserver.com has suffered quality issues through over-selling their capacity recently, frequent undocumented downtime, technical issues, and their standard iffy retention rates on any binaries older than 45-60 days. They posted on Sept 15th about trying to work on servers to add capacity to deal with the 502s. Its Sept 19th and still seeing little more than analog modem connection speeds, if you can even get a connection.
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Re: Best Usenet-provider: PowerUsenet.com

Postby Snige » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:47 pm

jginnane wrote:I'm hesitant to share this. It's that good... I don't want a bunch of kiddiez clogging the pipes. :-)

http://www.powerusenet.com

Same company that runs giganews.com; unlimited downloads for $10/15 a month, so it costs about half. (They have a different server farm.)

Since Verizon killed the alt.* hierarchy last month, I'd been worried, but the retention, completion, up-time, etc etc. on this provider make Verizon look like a really amateur operation. Which, in retrospect, it was. Vz used to slow to dial-up speed every night, but now, accessing a foreign node gets the full FIOS bandwidth 24/7.

Don't share this past your fave-5. Really. If you're smart enough to ask here, you deserve to know, but it's like finding a poker machine at your local casino that prints money.


100% back you up. Awesome service and for a UK user, it works out about just over £10 for unlimited use and SSL and 12 connections. Always max out my 8meg connection ( except for BT winkers capping at peak times ) and brilliant completion rates. Only thing is they are slightly flagging behind in the retention. Only 125 days for non text files. But keep on your toes and it's all good baby
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Re: Best Usenet-provider: PowerUsenet.com

Postby Xizer » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:23 pm

Snige wrote:
jginnane wrote:I'm hesitant to share this. It's that good... I don't want a bunch of kiddiez clogging the pipes. :-)

http://www.powerusenet.com

Same company that runs giganews.com; unlimited downloads for $10/15 a month, so it costs about half. (They have a different server farm.)

Since Verizon killed the alt.* hierarchy last month, I'd been worried, but the retention, completion, up-time, etc etc. on this provider make Verizon look like a really amateur operation. Which, in retrospect, it was. Vz used to slow to dial-up speed every night, but now, accessing a foreign node gets the full FIOS bandwidth 24/7.

Don't share this past your fave-5. Really. If you're smart enough to ask here, you deserve to know, but it's like finding a poker machine at your local casino that prints money.


100% back you up. Awesome service and for a UK user, it works out about just over £10 for unlimited use and SSL and 12 connections. Always max out my 8meg connection ( except for BT winkers capping at peak times ) and brilliant completion rates. Only thing is they are slightly flagging behind in the retention. Only 125 days for non text files. But keep on your toes and it's all good baby


Sorry. I'm just not seeing it. How is $20/month for 125 days of retention superior to $11/month for 160 days of retention (Astraweb) again?
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Re: Best Usenet-provider: PowerUsenet.com

Postby Snige » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:23 am

Xizer wrote:
Snige wrote:
jginnane wrote:I'm hesitant to share this. It's that good... I don't want a bunch of kiddiez clogging the pipes. :-)

http://www.powerusenet.com

Same company that runs giganews.com; unlimited downloads for $10/15 a month, so it costs about half. (They have a different server farm.)

Since Verizon killed the alt.* hierarchy last month, I'd been worried, but the retention, completion, up-time, etc etc. on this provider make Verizon look like a really amateur operation. Which, in retrospect, it was. Vz used to slow to dial-up speed every night, but now, accessing a foreign node gets the full FIOS bandwidth 24/7.

Don't share this past your fave-5. Really. If you're smart enough to ask here, you deserve to know, but it's like finding a poker machine at your local casino that prints money.


100% back you up. Awesome service and for a UK user, it works out about just over £10 for unlimited use and SSL and 12 connections. Always max out my 8meg connection ( except for BT winkers capping at peak times ) and brilliant completion rates. Only thing is they are slightly flagging behind in the retention. Only 125 days for non text files. But keep on your toes and it's all good baby


Sorry. I'm just not seeing it. How is $20/month for 125 days of retention superior to $11/month for 160 days of retention (Astraweb) again?


Hope you reply with your comment to everyone who doesn't use Astraweb if it's the best thing since sliced bread. And if you get the 3 month deal it's $13..sorry to be picky.

I was merely backing someone else's thoughts on a provider compared to Giganews. I wasn't comparing it with Astraweb. Nowwhere did I say it was better than them. I saw the bloke saying how pleased he was with PowerUsenet and I agreed. Surely we dont all have to use Astraweb?

On the upside, Astraweb looks to be quite good so I might try them, so you can be pleased by that. Alos like how they account for any downtime, even if it's only for a few minutes.

Only

Astraweb wrote:"What is the difference between the Unlimited Plans and Pay-by-Download plans?

The unlimited plans allow you to download as much as you want. However, it is limited by speed. It is well suited for heavy users that use usenet daily.

The pay-by-download plans are suited towards both heavy and light users of usenet. You are not limited by speed, however, your downloads are metered. You purchase bandwidth as and when needed and your purchased bandwidth never expires or runs out."

Does this mean it is limited or not because on the price plan it says speed is unlimited. Do you always get max D/L speed?
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Re: Best Usenet-provider: PowerUsenet.com

Postby chainmail » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:41 am

Power Usenet, as a lower-retention, lower-cost version of Giganews, and shares Giganews' outstanding reputation for reliability, and if reliability is very important to you, Power Usenet would be a top choice.

Snige wrote:
Astraweb wrote:"What is the difference between the Unlimited Plans and Pay-by-Download plans?

The unlimited plans allow you to download as much as you want. However, it is limited by speed. It is well suited for heavy users that use usenet daily.

The pay-by-download plans are suited towards both heavy and light users of usenet. You are not limited by speed, however, your downloads are metered. You purchase bandwidth as and when needed and your purchased bandwidth never expires or runs out."

Does this mean it is limited or not because on the price plan it says speed is unlimited. Do you always get max D/L speed?

Astraweb offers 3 different monthly plans.

"Unlimited" for $10/month - which is actually rate-limited at 1 megabit.
"Unlimited DSL" for $15/month - which is not rate-limited (and has nothing to do with DSL particularly)
"Unlimited DSL "Kleverig Special" for $11/month - which is not rate-limited, (and is not listed on their page with the other plans)

http://www.news.astraweb.com/plans.html
http://www.news.astraweb.com/specials/kleverig-11.html
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Re: Best Usenet-provider

Postby Paladwyn » Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:04 am

If I wasn't using Giganews, I actually would consider Astraweb, they seem to be on the up-and-up...offering what looks to be decent service for a relatively low price. Looked impressive from my point of view anyways.
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Re: Best Usenet-provider

Postby Trickman23 » Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:45 am

I like UseNeXT the most...
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Re: Best Usenet-provider

Postby rsrikanth05 » Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:11 pm

Man you guys are so lucky that you can afford to pay for Usenet, I can't even do that...
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Re: Best Usenet-provider

Postby BiG » Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:50 am

rsrikanth05 wrote:Man you guys are so lucky that you can afford to pay for Usenet, I can't even do that...

Seriously? I pay $11 a month.
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Re: Best Usenet-provider

Postby mainroy » Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:11 pm

I use download2day.nl. I can d/l at 2500KBs unlimited for 12 euros a month.
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Re: Best Usenet-provider

Postby rsrikanth05 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:14 am

BiG wrote:
rsrikanth05 wrote:Man you guys are so lucky that you can afford to pay for Usenet, I can't even do that...

Seriously? I pay $11 a month.

Pretty large sum.....
I'm saving it up for a HyMini package.
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