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Did you receive a letter after 9/24?

Postby SlyckTom » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:07 am

Hello all -

I understand that several individuals visiting this forum have received new letters from ACS:Law post September 24. I would like to follow up with this development - If you're one of these individuals and would like to add your input to an upcoming Slyck article, please PM or email me (tom at slyck dot com). I have a few questions such as when you received the letter, the type of letter it was, and how you plan to react.

Thank you!
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Re: Did you receive a letter after 9/24?

Postby ITWASNTMEGOV » Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:42 pm

SlyckTom wrote:Hello all -

I understand that several individuals visiting this forum have received new letters from ACS:Law post September 24. I would like to follow up with this development - If you're one of these individuals and would like to add your input to an upcoming Slyck article, please PM or email me (tom at slyck dot com). I have a few questions such as when you received the letter, the type of letter it was, and how you plan to react.

Thank you!


But Tom who are you why should I do that?
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Re: Did you receive a letter after 9/24?

Postby SlyckTom » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:41 pm

Hello!

Well I have to say I wasn't anticipating this question - but I'm happy to help!

You see, I own this site, Slyck.com. Also, if you read the Slyck News section on the index page, I am the news writer for the site (Tom Mennecke AKA SlyckTom).

Hopefully that satisfies your question - and I would love to discuss and add your story to the article if you're so inclined!
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Re: Did you receive a letter after 9/24?

Postby Rabglennie » Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:10 am

I have just received a letter from acs law telling me that I have to pay 1200 pounds for a movie I may or may not have downloaded in november 2009 there is no way that I will be paying this I can not even remember downloading it. But letter says that if I do not pay in 21 days them they will take me to court. Letter was sent out on 20th of October 2010.
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Re: Did you receive a letter after 9/24?

Postby DaveCommon » Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:05 pm

Hi

Not me, but my partners father (aged 75) just has an ACS (Media CAT) letter of claim about Infringement of Copyright. He says he is going to high court and then prison as he has no savings :-( He does not know what a P2P is or how to 'upload' but he does know torrent is easy to use.

He has sent me a copy of the ACS letter and now I start our journey.

Letter of claim is dated 20/10/10 for an alleged event dated 21/10/09 ?? coincidence in the timing ?

His ISP is MyPostOfice but the High Court application (17/2/10) for IP owner does not list Royal Mail Holdings.
Is this significant?


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Re: Did you receive a letter after 9/24?

Postby Verbose » Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:15 am

Like others, I have received a Letter of Claim dated 20th October with the accompanying Order of Feb 2010. My initial thought was that this was a bare faced scam, until I Googled 'ACS:Law' and rapidly discovered the the details of this shocking debacle. I have prepared a Letter of Denial, based on the template from Beingthreatened. There are some points and issues which, if anyone can shed light on them, may assist in the fight. I have read as much of the posts that I can but can't find anything on my observations so far. If these have been addressed elsewhere, I may have missed or misundertood them.

Firstly, the guide to the first letter of denial specifically references sections of the CPDA, which seem to be the basis in the Letter of Claim; but there are others such as 16(1)(a) and 17 littered through out the claim in such a manner so as to to confuse. I have preferred to tackle reference to the CPDA 1988 by stating '...I categorically deny any offence under sections of the CDPA 1988 as alleged.'

I retained reference to 16(2) of the Act, but it appears that the Claim tries to pre-negate this by stating that any alleged infringement is committed 'either directly yourself or by authorising (inadvertently or othewise) third parties to do the same'. Seems to me like the inference is that you are stuffed whichever way you look at it.

Secondly the LOD guide/template suggests the following
'You assert in your letter that the infringement was apparently traced to my internet connection. I note that I am not personally being accused of the infringement, as you have no evidence to this effect.'

However the letter of claim does specifically make many statements that I am personally being held responsible for the infringements, on the basis of 'evidence' - the evidence being an IP address and my associated personal details.

Thirdly, the letter of claim demands that the payment and undertakings must be made within 21 days from the date of receipt of the letter. Does this apply to the time frame in which to respond with a LOD? How can delivery of second class post, with no signature of confirmation of receipt of the letter establish when the 21 day period commences?

Finally, the Order, section 10, clearly defines how a letter of claim should be structured, specifically with the wording of the first paragraph of the Claim. However in my letter of Claim a modified version of the wording appears in paragraph 2, which I would think is in contravention of the Order. Would this then make the Claim legally invalid or incorrect?

I would be happy to submit copies of the Order and Letter of Claim (this being a 20 page document, largely intended to confuse). Who can I responsibly, and trustingly, send these to, and in what format?

On another point, I notice that due to the data leak, emails to and from ACS are in possession of people other than the intended recipients. I'm pretty certain that some of these emails will note that the emails are intended ONLY for the recipient. I would be wary of broadcasting the fact that anyone has possession of these emails.
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Re: Did you receive a letter after 9/24?

Postby bemusedman » Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:05 pm

OK, got mine today, dated 19 November. So even though ACS:Law website still offline and there was a lot a media hype about andrew crossley being reported to some governing body, his law firm is still well and truly open for business.

I have been waiting for this day since my FORMER(!) ISP got in touch to say "oops, your personal data has been leaked". This was the first I knew about all this file sharing malarky.

Still busy trawling the internet for advice before deciding how to formulate my response. Not sure if to use one of the "templates" as some of the info I found quote comments from ACS:Law stating these templates aren't a good form of defence.

Advice anyone??

:?

BTW - anyone considered counter suing for breach of data protection etc?
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Re: Did you receive a letter after 9/24?

Postby MrFredPFL » Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:13 pm

Not sure if to use one of the "templates" as some of the info I found quote comments from ACS:Law stating these templates aren't a good form of defence.


yes, they're happy to tell you that - with a template of their own. if you didn't do it, tell them so, and leave it at that. check the links in the pretty pink box at the top of the page, and check the main thread. you've got some reading to do, but the first thing i'd say to you is relax :)
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Re: Did you receive a letter after 9/24?

Postby scottlad » Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:28 pm

I know that Mr Crossley and co likely read these posts and without giving too much away, the have sent me a letter after the 24th of September.

I would be willing to speak to someone connected with Slyck about this if anyone is interested as I believe some information on the letter may be usefull.

All I am willing to say at the moment is that this whole matter is sickening, I have lost many a nights sleep over this and it worries me deeply that someone can pretty much blackmail you in to paying up £100's rather than defending £1000's.

I will send a copy to my MP, Can I Sue ACS for deformation of my name?

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Re: Did you receive a letter after 9/24?

Postby mrwhite2 » Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:39 pm

Same here, I received it last week.

I just can't deal with this anymore, I can't sleep, can't eat......

well.... at some point life will pay him back what Mr. Crossley is been doing to all us.... perhaps another stroke and bye bye.... :D
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Re: Did you receive a letter after 9/24?

Postby scottlad » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:42 pm

my letter had a compromise of £200, I can't afford it!! but it could make all this crap go away, I am tempted to phone them. I think I will loose the rag. What do I do??

Nice one ACS Law, just before Chistmas, I feel this will all come back to haunt you one day!!
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Re: Did you receive a letter after 9/24?

Postby MrFredPFL » Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:38 pm

the only way they will ever get money from you, scott, is if you do what you just described.
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Re: Did you receive a letter after 9/24?

Postby ITWASNTMEGOV » Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:12 pm

Just had a special offer letter from ACS only £200 instead of £495 limited special offer valid for 21 days letter dated 25/11
received today. I will of course not be taking up their kind offer.
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Re: Did you receive a letter after 9/24?

Postby brianphilip » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:50 am

Hi, I have received a 2nd letter dated the 14th Jan 2011. However the letter comes from a different address;
GCB Ltd, 1st Floor, Holborn Gate,330 High Holborn, London WC1V 7QT. After some time searching the web I tracked an email address to this company and it appears it is an Accountants run by two ex-employees of Mr Crossley. Having emailed them I got the following reply:

Email: sarah@mcleanreid.co.uk
"We are advised that the Director has taken the decision stop further trading through GCB Ltd in respect of alleged copyright infringement. We believe that he has moved swiftly to minimise the damage to his name in taking this decisive action. We are further advised that he was unaware of the background involved in these claims or the precise nature of the claims. To that end anyone receiving letters from or on behalf of GCB Ltd in respect of copyright infringement should ignore these letters. We have been assured that no further action will be taken."

Kind Regards
Sarah Wiley

McLean Reid Chartered Accountants
1 Forstal Road
Aylesford
Kent, ME20 7AU
I hope this is helpful, Regards, brianphilip.
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Re: Did you receive a letter after 9/24?

Postby sunnyd » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:02 am

Welcome, Brian,

Just in case you have not been following the main thread on this,
The Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion,
viewtopic.php?f=66&t=44092&start=15175 there is plenty of information in this thread also. :wink:
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