The official ACS:LAW/Davenport-Lyons lawsuit discussion

[Toxie]

What’s that I can smell? Could it be the faint whiff of the Streisand effect, rising like a noxious fart from the collective backside of ACS:Law?

[bunny]

Sorry ACS: Law for linking my name with yours. Website is down.

WHAT THE F**K!!!!

I'm feeling like in some episode of X Files! Man in black are after us.The closer you get to the truth the bigger the chance that dark is going to eat you alive?!

Maybe new moto of this forum should be THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE?

Stay strong...

[Gregz]

ACS have won, if someone sends me the links and letters I would be happy to host the site. I'm not scared of them.

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What is even wrong with that site it doesn't do anything wrong being scammed ffs why did you take it down. Did they threaten you with legal action, I cant see much wrong with the site.

[zorch001]

ACS have won, if someone sends me the links and letters I would be happy to host the site. I'm not scared of them.

What we need is about 10 sites all hosted off foreign servers that way they cannot shut them down.

[Gregz]

ACS have won, if someone sends me the links and letters I would be happy to host the site. I'm not scared of them.

What we need is about 10 sites all hosted off foreign servers that way they cannot shut them down.

Or we can carefully word them so it is legal we don't even need to write ACS in the site you could write "a company"

[absolut]

Q: What's the difference between a hedgehog and two solicitors in a Porsche?
A: The hedgehog has the pricks on the outside.

[Gregz]

Now what site do we go to for help, Beingscammed re-open you have done nothing wrong.

[bunny]

ACS have won, if someone sends me the links and letters I would be happy to host the site. I'm not scared of them.

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What is even wrong with that site it doesn't do anything wrong being scammed ffs why did you take it down. Did they threaten you with legal action, I cant see much wrong with the site.

Ofcourse they have threaten him! Huh man all this ACS bull makes me sooooo mad!!!

What the hell happened with freedom of speach? This is England not some third world country! Where is all that democracy that we are promised ?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA........soooooooo maaaaaaaad!!!

[absolut]

He's making a new website and will let everyone know when it's done.

[Gregz]

well I live in scotland, reopen the site or send files to someone else. We are not scared and should stay together ffs.

[Gregz]

He's making a new website and will let everyone know when it's done.

can you ask him to post the threat he received so we can find the flaws in that.

[Gregz]

WOOHOOO TRIPPLE POST

Did anyone receive their second letter today.

[Me2]

Sorry ACS: Law for linking my name with yours. Website is down.

What about wikileaks? Technically this isn't a leak, but they would probably be ok with it.

[1100110101]

If anybody needs to download the documents previously referred to at beingscammed.com, if you are quick they are still available on google cache...
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:uFvLtSXCcGMJ:www.beingscammed.com/+beingscammed.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

[Gregz]

Cool, got all documents etc.

here it is in an easier form, click click cached.

be quick

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q= ... ammed.com+

[Dave909]

He's making a new website and will let everyone know when it's done.

can you ask him to post the threat he received so we can find the flaws in that.

He'll probably change anything he's been forced to and then tell us what went on I guess. Prehaps the problem was that he should'nt have posted a contact email address. That way ACS would have had no way to threaten him as they would have had no way to contact him without going to court to force the isp to give them his personel details!

[Me2]

He's making a new website and will let everyone know when it's done.

can you ask him to post the threat he received so we can find the flaws in that.

He'll probably change anything he's been forced to and then tell us what went on I guess. Prehaps the problem was that he should'nt have posted a contact email address. That way ACS would have had no way to threaten him as they would have had no way to contact him without going to court to force the isp to give them his personel details!

tbh they would have asked[threatened] his webhost to terminate his account and most hosts roll-over to legal threats.

[Toxie]

That way ACS would have had no way to threaten him as they would have had no way to contact him without going to court to force the isp to give them his personel details!

You haven’t looked at the whois record for beingscammed.com, have you? ACS:Law could have walked around and served papers in person. I sense an undergraduate student trying his very best, but learning the hard way.

[l2s4s]

This really makes me laugh...........ACS:Law have had the Beingscammed website taken down........are they really that stupid that they don’t think another website with a less controversial name wont be set up with exactly the same info on it.
It will still have the same tags for all the search engines, just a different name. How does feellikeyourbeingscammed.com sound to them.

The good thing to come out of it is that they have had to waste some of their time doing it and I for one drink to that.

[Richie-82]

So this whole fiasco takes a turn for the worse or the better...seems to me they are now gearing up for an offensive and probably try and work out who are using the boards a lot and go after them first to make "examples".

Stressed to death as it is over this whole damn thing and boils my piss that in this Country people are allowed to threaten honest genuine hard working folk with this utter bollox without any hard CLEAR evidence

Bureaucracy is a bitch....

[young_rodent]

I just had an angry chat with some guy at Virgin for selling my details to these people in the middle of last year without telling me anything about it. The guy got quite aggressive, saying they were forced by the court order to hand my details on but were not paid for doing so, and that the court order stipulated that they must not inform me of their actions. I said I was going to change ISPs as soon as my current contract with them expires (in August) and he said that no matter who I go with, all ISPs are required by law to comply with these court orders.

Does anyone know if this is true, or if any ISPs are prepared to fight to protect their customers' details? Or do any, at the very least, let you know that they have been forced to hand over your details so you can prepare for what's coming?

The point is that if I had known this was going on this time last year, I could have made sure my router was secure back then. As it is, the settings on the router have been giving every Tom, Dick and Harry access to my network for a further twelve months so who knows what other stuff I might get accused of.

[MrFredPFL]

rodent: needless to say, it's probably not a good idea to take anything a low-level employee tells you as gospel, for many reasons. in particular, i find it difficult to believe that the court ordered virgin to not tell their customers about the release of the info. i think the most likely thing is that the court makes no stipulation about informing customers, one way or the other. i'm reasonably sure they neither tell them to inform you, nor tell them to not inform you.

[young_rodent]

Thanks Fred. But could DL/ACS:Law have inserted such a clause into the court order because they wanted to keep the alleged filesharer in ignorance during the period between them obtaining the IP address (last year) and issuing their letters of claim (now)? That way, they'd be more likely to pick up further offences in the interim period and so enable them to make more claims against the same individuals in the future.

[AJT]

Hi
I just listened to"You and Yours" on iplayer and ACS or the letters weren't mentioned. Has this feature been rescheduled?

[MrFredPFL]

rodent: i'm not a lawyer, so all i can do is speculate. my best guess is that no, they couldn't get any such clause approved by the court. hopefully someone with more specific knowledge of the laws in england can either confirm or deny that.

as far as making further claims go: i think the only people who need to worry about that are the people who signed the so-called undertaking. imo, these people have left themselves open to future harrassment.