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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby bpaw » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:32 am

A couple of domains also registered at 190.120.227.70.

http://www.gn3sys.net

Registrant:
Root @GN3SYS
1
London, LONDON W1
GB

Registrar: NAMESDIRECT
Domain Name: GN3SYS.NET
Created on: 12-JUL-11
Expires on: 12-JUL-13
Last Updated on: 08-DEC-11

Administrative, Technical Contact:
@GN3SYS, Root
1
London, LONDON W1
GB
07871390044

Domain servers in listed order:
NS0.GN3SYS.NET
NS1.GN3SYS.NET

http://www.alireza.me

Domain Name:ALIREZA.ME
Domain Create Date:20-Aug-2008 20:10:23 UTC
Domain Last Updated Date:10-Sep-2011 11:11:03 UTC
Domain Expiration Date:20-Aug-2013 20:10:23 UTC
Last Transferred Date:
Sponsoring Registrar:MyDomain Inc. R130-ME (105)
Created by:MyDomain Inc. R130-ME (105)
Last Updated by Registrar:MyDomain Inc. R130-ME (105)
Domain Status:OK
Registrant ID:DOT-VEJE93U70KIP
Registrant Name:Alireza Torabi
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Address:Alireza Torabi
Registrant Address2:
Registrant Address3:
Registrant City:London
Registrant State/Province:LONDON
Registrant Country/Economy:GB
Registrant Postal Code:A1
Registrant Phone:+44.07871390044
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant E-mail:

Still insufficient registered details.
"Hatton & Berkeley, which provides financial services to small businesses, sent the letters on behalf of its client TCYK LLC to Mrs Drew. Robert Croucher, managing director of Hatton & Berkeley, said: "They [the letters] are part of what's referred to as a pre-action protocol. We send them before action...They don't actually make a demand for money."
Source Link: BBC News
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby Mullard47 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:52 pm

If you look here:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/fo ... ../page117

there is a post which attributes a further domain to AT. Yet the current whois exhibits the same deficiency.
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby bpaw » Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:14 am

Mullard47 wrote:If you look here:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/fo ... ../page117

there is a post which attributes a further domain to AT. Yet the current whois exhibits the same deficiency.

Oh yes, that one does ring a bell. It also shows that he did at least have his name registered.

I also noticed that administrative email contact now is root@xypy.net.

Registrant:
Root @ZANGBAR
1
London, LONDON W1
GB

Registrar: NAMESDIRECT
Domain Name: ZANGBAR.COM
Created on: 20-OCT-09
Expires on: 20-OCT-13
Last Updated on: 20-OCT-11

Administrative, Technical Contact:
@ZANGBAR, Root root@xypy.net
1
London, LONDON W1
GB
07871390044

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.ZANGBAR.COM
NS2.ZANGBAR.COM

I'm pretty convinced that the VPN site xypy.net is owned by Ali.

Another common theme with zangbar.com, xypy.net, gn3sys.com, gn3sys.net, ng3sys.com and ng3systems.com is they were rigistered with namesdirect.

ng4sys.com was registered but deleted.
"Hatton & Berkeley, which provides financial services to small businesses, sent the letters on behalf of its client TCYK LLC to Mrs Drew. Robert Croucher, managing director of Hatton & Berkeley, said: "They [the letters] are part of what's referred to as a pre-action protocol. We send them before action...They don't actually make a demand for money."
Source Link: BBC News
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby concerned100 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:09 am

Does anyone know which solicitor/counsel has been appointed by the SRA for Crossley's hearing in January?
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby bpaw » Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:50 am

Talk about bad luck!

Not only did I get an LoC personally from AJC last year for downloading copyright material I did not do, this morning I was passed an LoC from getty images (Not a solicitor) saying our company has one of their pictures on our website and they want £700!

Trouble is, it is our website domain name with china at the end of it (Like having www.microsoftchina.com). When looking at it, the domain is a parking site. A whois check reveals it to be a Chinese company who registered it with a Chinese registrar hosted on Chinese servers. If I can do a whois, why can’t getty images?

First impressions made me think it was scam, but the phone number, website and email were legitimate. Anyway, I rung them up and explained. They apologised and said the matter was closed. When I pressed on how they made the association, they said it’s a third party who passes the information to them, and they don’t know what they do when getting it. They insisted the site did have the picture in question at the date/time of infringement.

What bothers me is I get emails from so called Chinese registrars claiming that there is a Chinese company wanting to register variations of our domain name. They say they are the official Chinese registrars and advise us to register about 10 variations on our domain name. These emails I ignore.

So if a Chinese company registers a variation of our domain and puts a copyright picture on it, then they notify the copyright holder, I then could miraculously receive an email from a so called Chinese registrar asking me to register domain names with them. I then think what a great idea because of this stunt that has been played on us.

Something to be wary of.
"Hatton & Berkeley, which provides financial services to small businesses, sent the letters on behalf of its client TCYK LLC to Mrs Drew. Robert Croucher, managing director of Hatton & Berkeley, said: "They [the letters] are part of what's referred to as a pre-action protocol. We send them before action...They don't actually make a demand for money."
Source Link: BBC News
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby concerned100 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:28 am

Does anyone know which solicitor/counsel has been appointed by the SRA for Crossley's hearing in January? I assume some of the ACS Law letter recipients who contacted the SRA will have been asked to give witness statements, as per the DL hearing.
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby Mullard47 » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:32 am

concerned100 wrote:Does anyone know which solicitor/counsel has been appointed by the SRA for Crossley's hearing in January? I assume some of the ACS Law letter recipients who contacted the SRA will have been asked to give witness statements, as per the DL hearing.


My recollection is of two posters here who said they had produced witness statements. If I am correct, one said that court proceedings had been started against them and just abandoned in limbo without them being provided with explanation and that when they asked ACS about it they couldn't get a proper answer. I believe that they ended up having incurred costs which, they were told, would involve launching proceedings in Germany to try to recover. The other one (as I recall) was where a LOC recipient searched the ownership title to the work he was alleged to have facilitated infringement of and ascertained that the copyright was owned by a foreign liquidator who was trying to sell the back catalogue of the insolvent owner, and that there should not have been any licensee in a position to bring a copyright claim at all. I do not recall if he ever got a reply from ACS about that.

But I do not recall either of those having posted for ages, or anyone else here saying they had been involved with the SRA other than making a complaint and getting a canned reply.
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby Billpayerr » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:11 am

'Twitter all you like!' Top judge gives reporters the right to tweet or email from courtrooms in historic decision

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1gWfKq1SU

So everyone will be able to get updates on twitter from the Tribunal do you think?
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby factual » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:18 pm

concerned100 wrote:Does anyone know which solicitor/counsel has been appointed by the SRA for Crossley's hearing in January? I assume some of the ACS Law letter recipients who contacted the SRA will have been asked to give witness statements, as per the DL hearing.


I think the SRA use 'Capsticks' pretty much as standard. It was they who worked on Davenport Lyons.
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby Mullard47 » Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:50 pm

factual wrote:
concerned100 wrote:Does anyone know which solicitor/counsel has been appointed by the SRA for Crossley's hearing in January? I assume some of the ACS Law letter recipients who contacted the SRA will have been asked to give witness statements, as per the DL hearing.


I think the SRA use 'Capsticks' pretty much as standard. It was they who worked on Davenport Lyons.


Be interesting to see what the arrangements are for counsel for the defence.
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby concerned100 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:43 am

Mullard47 wrote:
factual wrote:
concerned100 wrote:Does anyone know which solicitor/counsel has been appointed by the SRA for Crossley's hearing in January? I assume some of the ACS Law letter recipients who contacted the SRA will have been asked to give witness statements, as per the DL hearing.


I think the SRA use 'Capsticks' pretty much as standard. It was they who worked on Davenport Lyons.


Be interesting to see what the arrangements are for counsel for the defence.


I seem to recall Crossley claiming poverty and objecting to having to conduct his defense himself due to lack of funds to appoint cousel!

http://willgilmour.blogspot.com/2011/06 ... ty-of.html
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby steveh » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:47 am

Billpayerr wrote:'Twitter all you like!' Top judge gives reporters the right to tweet or email from courtrooms in historic decision

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1gWfKq1SU

So everyone will be able to get updates on twitter from the Tribunal do you think?

It only applies to reporters and legal commentators who no longer have to ask the judge for permission - they've been allowed to tweet with permission since last year. Members of the public will still need to ask the judge for permission to use 'electronic devices'.

Hopefully Dinah Greek will be in attendance at his hearing.
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby concerned100 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:52 am

steveh wrote:
Billpayerr wrote:'Twitter all you like!' Top judge gives reporters the right to tweet or email from courtrooms in historic decision

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1gWfKq1SU

So everyone will be able to get updates on twitter from the Tribunal do you think?

It only applies to reporters and legal commentators who no longer have to ask the judge for permission - they've been allowed to tweet with permission since last year. Members of the public will still need to ask the judge for permission to use 'electronic devices'.

Hopefully Dinah Greek will be in attendance at his hearing.


Last year Crossley sat typing away all morning and then left, having handed in that 'excuse' thru his counsel! Very rude and disrespectful, but not surprising.
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby my2pworth » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:52 pm

The Witcher 2 devs claim 100% accuracy in identifying pirates, demand money from thousands


yeah - right !! - An "anonymous" company using "top secret" technology :(
CDP RED feel they’ve found a way, using a method developed by an external company.

“We’re addressing only 100% confirmed piracy causes that are 100% possible to prove,” said Michal Nowakowski, VP of Business Development for CD Project RED, via email. He wouldn’t be drawn on the methods used, however. “We are not worried about tracking the wrong people. As this is the trade secret of the company working on this, I cannot share it. However, we investigated the subject before we decided on this move, and we aware of some past complications (the famous Davenport case). The method used here is targeting only 100% confirmed piracy cases. No innocent person was targeted with the letter so far. At least we have not received any information as of now which would indicate something like that.”

When asked, CDP RED also refused to name the company whose services they were using, for fear of damaging that company’s business. Which is deeply odd, as identification for doing your job isn’t normally damaging. But he also claimed CDP RED weren’t the only people using these methods. “For some reason the spotlight came down on CDP RED, however you should be aware this is something that about 95% of the games industry is actually doing. Pretty much all the major publishers and most of the independent developers.”

More @ PCGamer - http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/12/15/the-w ... thousands/
ACS LAW > DAVENPORT LYONS > DL > Gallant MacMillan > Golden Eye Internaional Ltd. > GEIL > Ben Dover > O2 > BE > Bethere
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby factual » Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:18 pm

The second anyone says '100% confirmed' and '100% possible to prove' ...and won't prove it - you know that they're full of brown stuff.

"No innocent person was targeted with the letter so far." - Oh, so no letters were sent? That's alright then.
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby Mullard47 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:20 pm

factual wrote:The second anyone says '100% confirmed' and '100% possible to prove' ...and won't prove it - you know that they're full of brown stuff.

"No innocent person was targeted with the letter so far." - Oh, so no letters were sent? That's alright then.



This technology has been around for quite some time and it is infallible. And I know that this is true because I saw it on a web site that said:-

At the centre of our fight against piracy and the illegal distribution of our copyrights is our bespoke technology which captures the irrefutable evidence of the perpetrators.

Clem Volger, a Chartered Physicist who is registered as a checked computer expert with the Expert Witness Directory, has written a detailed report of our software. Mr Volger work has been commended by Crown Court Judges for his work in providing clear explanations on computer evidence.

His report will be provided to court with other evidence gathered of the perpetrators.
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby bpaw » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:56 pm

TorrentFreaks Ernesto suggest they targetted innocent Germans.

http://torrentfreak.com/drm-free-witcher-2-cashes-in-on-bittorrent-pirates-111207/

I believe TorrentFreak.
"Hatton & Berkeley, which provides financial services to small businesses, sent the letters on behalf of its client TCYK LLC to Mrs Drew. Robert Croucher, managing director of Hatton & Berkeley, said: "They [the letters] are part of what's referred to as a pre-action protocol. We send them before action...They don't actually make a demand for money."
Source Link: BBC News
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby bpaw » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:45 pm

I thought I maybe on to something with Alireza Torabi.

The IP address 190.120.227.70 hosts:
gn3sys,com, gn3sys.net, alireza.me, ng3systems.com, ng3sys.com, xypy.net, cyberdealer.co.uk.

The IP address 190.120.227.55 hosts:
zangbar.com

The IP address 190.120.227.21 hosts:
goldeneyeint.com

The very same servers of Infolink Communication Services (serverpronto.com). These IP addresses are located in Panama (Infolink Panama S.A.)

I understand the .70 & .55 parallel as being logical. The goldeneye and ben dover type websites are indifferent.

Coincidences may only be speculation.
"Hatton & Berkeley, which provides financial services to small businesses, sent the letters on behalf of its client TCYK LLC to Mrs Drew. Robert Croucher, managing director of Hatton & Berkeley, said: "They [the letters] are part of what's referred to as a pre-action protocol. We send them before action...They don't actually make a demand for money."
Source Link: BBC News
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby Mullard47 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:53 am

bpaw wrote:I thought I maybe on to something with Alireza Torabi.

The IP address 190.120.227.70 hosts:
gn3sys,com, gn3sys.net, alireza.me, ng3systems.com, ng3sys.com, xypy.net, cyberdealer.co.uk.

The IP address 190.120.227.55 hosts:
zangbar.com

The IP address 190.120.227.21 hosts:
goldeneyeint.com

The very same servers of Infolink Communication Services (serverpronto.com). These IP addresses are located in Panama (Infolink Panama S.A.)

I understand the .70 & .55 parallel as being logical. The goldeneye and ben dover type websites are indifferent.

Coincidences may only be speculation.


Here is a further piece of speculative fuel.

In the leaked emails, there is an email dated 18th January 2010 entitled "FW: Letter on the internet" in which Crossley forwarded (to Tsang) an email he had received from Julian Becker whose email address was ....@ben-dover.biz and whose email signature described him as "Commercial Director, Ben Dover Productions". The email attached an image that had been posted on a forum which was a scan of a letter from ACS-Law stating (to the recipient of a LoC) that no further action was being taken.
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby HighFibre » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:36 am

IP address tracking taken to the extreme:
**WARNING** Dodgy site which claims to use IP tracking to show which torrents you have downloaded. ***

http://www.youhavedownloaded.com/

I wonder if anyone connected with this website has links to any of the usual suspects. They seem to use the same methods - basically just scraping IP addresses from public torrent trackers.
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby bpaw » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:02 pm

Registrant details changed on xypy.net:
Anahita Irani
12 Ekbatan St.
Tehran, Tehran N/A
IR

intriguing.

zangbar.com admin email address changed from root@xypy.net to root@zangbar.com.

Both changes on 18th Dec 2011.

:howdy: Ali!
"Hatton & Berkeley, which provides financial services to small businesses, sent the letters on behalf of its client TCYK LLC to Mrs Drew. Robert Croucher, managing director of Hatton & Berkeley, said: "They [the letters] are part of what's referred to as a pre-action protocol. We send them before action...They don't actually make a demand for money."
Source Link: BBC News
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby my2pworth » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:32 am

Another one bites the dust ! ?
:D
Golden Eye claims against alleged illegal file sharer dropped
Another significant blow against speculative invoicing after serious judicial scrutiny


Dinah Greek News Law 22/12/2011

http://www.computeractive.co.uk/ca/news ... z1hHW5MjOR
ACS LAW > DAVENPORT LYONS > DL > Gallant MacMillan > Golden Eye Internaional Ltd. > GEIL > Ben Dover > O2 > BE > Bethere
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby bpaw » Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:37 pm

It is weird this Goldeneye Int outfit.

We are aware of the ben-dover.biz involvement. We know the domain registration is:

Julian Becker
Optime Strategies Ltd. Suite 10 Halton Close
Friern Barnet, London, London, N11 3HQ
email: bob.stamegna@archangel.co.uk

We know that Optime Strategies Ltd is not registered with Companies House.

Mullard47 post, 16th October 2011:

In the 2009 BBC documentary entitled "Rich Man, Poor Man - Ben Dover Straightens" he is credited on the IMDB HERE as Steve Perry playing (as Lindsay Honey), which is not at all clear. If someone can find out where that can be downloaded from, maybe the actual work provides a better insight.

The IMDB cast shows Julian Becker playing himself as a “Business Partner”:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1505798/

Bob Stamegna (Robert Stamegna) has a host of companies now dissolved:

ARCHANGEL MUSIC LIMITED - Dissolved
ARCHANGEL MUSIC ONLINE LTD. - Dissolved
GROVEUNIQUE LIMITED - Dissolved
EMPIRE ARTISTS MANAGEMENT LIMITED - Dissolved

The domain http://www.archangel.co.uk has a registration of:

archangel.co.uk
Registrant: Robert Stamegna
Trading as: Archangel
Registrant type: UK Sole Trader

Not sure about registrants as “UK Sole Trader” trading as a dissolved company. Can this be a concern to Nominet? The knock on effect could be an invalid email address for the domain ben-dover.biz.

I see a similarity with the darker enterprises / sheptonhurst / mediacat & goldeneye / optime strategies / ben dover productions way of clouding the actual details of who is involved.

It has been interesting to see Alireza Torabi have to correct registration details lately that he tried to hide previously. Also interesting is the original registration he wasn’t bothered about when he first registered them were changed in an attempt to hide his details.

That is the trouble of choosing the battle ground of the internet! You can also be monitored!
"Hatton & Berkeley, which provides financial services to small businesses, sent the letters on behalf of its client TCYK LLC to Mrs Drew. Robert Croucher, managing director of Hatton & Berkeley, said: "They [the letters] are part of what's referred to as a pre-action protocol. We send them before action...They don't actually make a demand for money."
Source Link: BBC News
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby Mullard47 » Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:45 am

bpaw wrote:It is weird this Goldeneye Int outfit.

We are aware of the ben-dover.biz involvement. We know the domain registration is:

Julian Becker
Optime Strategies Ltd. Suite 10 Halton Close
Friern Barnet, London, London, N11 3HQ
email: bob.stamegna@archangel.co.uk

We know that Optime Strategies Ltd is not registered with Companies House.

Mullard47 post, 16th October 2011:

In the 2009 BBC documentary entitled "Rich Man, Poor Man - Ben Dover Straightens" he is credited on the IMDB HERE as Steve Perry playing (as Lindsay Honey), which is not at all clear. If someone can find out where that can be downloaded from, maybe the actual work provides a better insight.

The IMDB cast shows Julian Becker playing himself as a “Business Partner”:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1505798/

Bob Stamegna (Robert Stamegna) has a host of companies now dissolved:

ARCHANGEL MUSIC LIMITED - Dissolved
ARCHANGEL MUSIC ONLINE LTD. - Dissolved
GROVEUNIQUE LIMITED - Dissolved
EMPIRE ARTISTS MANAGEMENT LIMITED - Dissolved

The domain http://www.archangel.co.uk has a registration of:

archangel.co.uk
Registrant: Robert Stamegna
Trading as: Archangel
Registrant type: UK Sole Trader

Not sure about registrants as “UK Sole Trader” trading as a dissolved company. Can this be a concern to Nominet? The knock on effect could be an invalid email address for the domain ben-dover.biz.

I see a similarity with the darker enterprises / sheptonhurst / mediacat & goldeneye / optime strategies / ben dover productions way of clouding the actual details of who is involved.

It has been interesting to see Alireza Torabi have to correct registration details lately that he tried to hide previously. Also interesting is the original registration he wasn’t bothered about when he first registered them were changed in an attempt to hide his details.

That is the trouble of choosing the battle ground of the internet! You can also be monitored!


There is a company "Optime Strategies" and, in the context of registering a domain name, I do not see why someone should not be a sole trader t/a a name like that. If someone said "t/a Archangel Limited" then it would be a different matter.

There are a number of significant differences between English and German Law. In Germany, (a) there are not joinder requirements to the level of those in the CPR's and the 1988 Act, (b) within certain constraints, a cause of action can be assigned to a third party without a property grant, and (c) there is a doctrine of secondary liability which has no English counterpart - in English law, that type of liability only arises where explicitly imposed by statute.

Consequently, the type of business model that appears to have started here with the importation of the Digiprotect claims by Davenport Lyons, is in part completely incompatible with the legal processes here, and in part would necessitate getting involved in controversial and complex litigation. None of the claimants or their solicitors appear to have tackled this issue properly at the outset. Had they have done so, then these claims that involve a third party company attempting to acquire the exclusive standing to sue would not have arisen.
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Re: Official ACS:LAW/DL letter/legal threat discussion

Postby bpaw » Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:59 pm

Mullard47 wrote:
bpaw wrote:It is weird this Goldeneye Int outfit.

We are aware of the ben-dover.biz involvement. We know the domain registration is:

Julian Becker
Optime Strategies Ltd. Suite 10 Halton Close
Friern Barnet, London, London, N11 3HQ
email: bob.stamegna@archangel.co.uk

We know that Optime Strategies Ltd is not registered with Companies House.

Mullard47 post, 16th October 2011:

In the 2009 BBC documentary entitled "Rich Man, Poor Man - Ben Dover Straightens" he is credited on the IMDB HERE as Steve Perry playing (as Lindsay Honey), which is not at all clear. If someone can find out where that can be downloaded from, maybe the actual work provides a better insight.

The IMDB cast shows Julian Becker playing himself as a “Business Partner”:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1505798/

Bob Stamegna (Robert Stamegna) has a host of companies now dissolved:

ARCHANGEL MUSIC LIMITED - Dissolved
ARCHANGEL MUSIC ONLINE LTD. - Dissolved
GROVEUNIQUE LIMITED - Dissolved
EMPIRE ARTISTS MANAGEMENT LIMITED - Dissolved

The domain http://www.archangel.co.uk has a registration of:

archangel.co.uk
Registrant: Robert Stamegna
Trading as: Archangel
Registrant type: UK Sole Trader

Not sure about registrants as “UK Sole Trader” trading as a dissolved company. Can this be a concern to Nominet? The knock on effect could be an invalid email address for the domain ben-dover.biz.

I see a similarity with the darker enterprises / sheptonhurst / mediacat & goldeneye / optime strategies / ben dover productions way of clouding the actual details of who is involved.

It has been interesting to see Alireza Torabi have to correct registration details lately that he tried to hide previously. Also interesting is the original registration he wasn’t bothered about when he first registered them were changed in an attempt to hide his details.

That is the trouble of choosing the battle ground of the internet! You can also be monitored!


There is a company "Optime Strategies" and, in the context of registering a domain name, I do not see why someone should not be a sole trader t/a a name like that. If someone said "t/a Archangel Limited" then it would be a different matter.

There are a number of significant differences between English and German Law. In Germany, (a) there are not joinder requirements to the level of those in the CPR's and the 1988 Act, (b) within certain constraints, a cause of action can be assigned to a third party without a property grant, and (c) there is a doctrine of secondary liability which has no English counterpart - in English law, that type of liability only arises where explicitly imposed by statute.

Consequently, the type of business model that appears to have started here with the importation of the Digiprotect claims by Davenport Lyons, is in part completely incompatible with the legal processes here, and in part would necessitate getting involved in controversial and complex litigation. None of the claimants or their solicitors appear to have tackled this issue properly at the outset. Had they have done so, then these claims that involve a third party company attempting to acquire the exclusive standing to sue would not have arisen.

I stand corrected again, Mullard. Of course Optime is a company (Hence Ltd! Company No. 04527808). Slight confusion with Ben Dover Productions!

Although Optime is a company, the registered email address is to another domain. This domain (archangel) is registered t/a a dissolved company. That is what bothers me with this. It seems like there is an objective to not have all direct involvement with this scam. My conclusion is that some very clever person from the start said that you cannot / will not win if you are the genuine rights holder, so grant a licence to some shady licencee.

The model employed by various participants in the speculative invoicing scam has evolved like some sort of Darwinism concept. Only their evolution are going against the survival of the fittest theorem.

Edit:
Merry Christmas to everyone.

My particular best wishes and thanks go to the gallant heroes who thought against their foes in the early days of speculative invoicing. I have read and learned so much from their historical posts on this thread.

What is apparent, enemies have fallen. One more foe faces his peers in January. Whatever the outcome, this Christmas Day is vacant from a Devil preying on the innocent.
"Hatton & Berkeley, which provides financial services to small businesses, sent the letters on behalf of its client TCYK LLC to Mrs Drew. Robert Croucher, managing director of Hatton & Berkeley, said: "They [the letters] are part of what's referred to as a pre-action protocol. We send them before action...They don't actually make a demand for money."
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