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Re: Golden Eye Int LTD / GEIL / MIRCOM / TCYK Threat Discuss

Postby Aliceinwonderland » Mon May 08, 2017 11:30 am

Thank you bpaw for the kind words.

These Trolls are bullies, with no thought or care for right or wrong, their only thought is extorting money from whomever will pay. As such they need to be stopped and those targeted helped.

I'm happy to play my part and give something back to replay the assistance I received form this forum

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Postby Hickster » Tue May 09, 2017 10:41 am

bpaw wrote:Kudos to those who look after the false accused like Aliceinwonderland, wronglyac and many others. This thread and other threads before it have helped so many innocent people. Those who contribute here were helped by this forum in the past just as I was helped.

I believe many others who frequented this forum in the past still look in. Although they don't contribute in posts, they contribute in observation. Many talented members look in, and if there is a particular issue they feel they could contribute to, they will.

Others observe the trolls. I like to observe the trolls!

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Julian Becker of Golden Eye International Limited seems to have had a reunion with those he accused of "stealing" his copyright material who admitted it at Arsenals stadium!


Oh look there really IS an ARSE in Arsenal, who would have thought, an Arsehole in Arsenal, he looks pretty smug for someone spending a lot of cash that he had got by deception doesn't he?. Must be one of the few Pornographers that are so crap they cant earn money from the proffession, and when you think the profession itself is exploitative, he realy does have a problem. Talking of Arses, not heard from Mr Beckers PA of late, Oneeyedjacks AKA Terry. Anyone?
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Re: Golden Eye Int LTD / GEIL / MIRCOM / TCYK Threat Discuss

Postby bpaw » Sat May 13, 2017 7:44 pm

Yeah mate, Becker spends a lot of money being an Arse at Arsenal.

Considering his title of Commercial Director at Ben Dover Productions, it is hard to understand how this Arse hole can proclaim to be a "Commercial Director" when he clearly can't be "Commercial" online.

Same as Croucher. Why can't these bigoted arseholes realises that conducting speculative invoicing means that you lose any chance of having an online presence? Do you want to be a promoter? Do you want to be a commercial director? Well, speculative invoicing ends your career.
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Re: Golden Eye Int LTD / GEIL / MIRCOM / TCYK Threat Discuss

Postby Stressed_Out » Sun May 14, 2017 6:58 am

Whoa people! Are my eyes deceiving me - has anyone else noticed that this thread has had over a million - yes - 1,000,000,views? :clapcheer:

Well it certainly has reached many victims even though many views are repeats.
Over 1,000,000 that's some achievement that is. Hang on I.m just going to check..... :shock: ..yes it's right enough. Not as many as the original thread mind you, but just as impressive.
Just goes to show that people are still interested/determined in putting a stop to these "Scamsters" who quite honestly are doing harm to genuine Intellectual Property claimants.
Keep up the good work everyone.
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Re: Golden Eye Int LTD / GEIL / MIRCOM / TCYK Threat Discuss

Postby MrFredPFL » Sun May 14, 2017 1:55 pm

Stressed_Out wrote:Whoa people! Are my eyes deceiving me - has anyone else noticed that this thread has had over a million - yes - 1,000,000,views? :clapcheer:

Well it certainly has reached many victims even though many views are repeats.
Over 1,000,000 that's some achievement that is. Hang on I.m just going to check..... :shock: ..yes it's right enough. Not as many as the original thread mind you, but just as impressive.
Just goes to show that people are still interested/determined in putting a stop to these "Scamsters" who quite honestly are doing harm to genuine Intellectual Property claimants.
Keep up the good work everyone.
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that's great. u all need to give yourselves a hand, it's well-deserved :)
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Postby wronglyac » Mon May 15, 2017 6:22 pm

Yes a big hand to everyone involved in helping innocent potential victims of these scammers. :toast:

I came here just over a year ago, not knowing what to do, when I was accused of downloading and sharing a porn film. The site and the advice here, gave me the confidence to stand up to these bullies, rather than be harassed and bullied by them into paying for something I hadn't done.

I now visit the site nearly everyday and try to visit a couple of times a day, I'll do what I can to help people, even if it's just a holding message to say, wait and someone will be along soon to offer advice.
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Re: Golden Eye Int LTD / GEIL / MIRCOM / TCYK Threat Discuss

Postby sunnyd » Mon May 15, 2017 6:44 pm

Stressed_Out wrote:Whoa people! Are my eyes deceiving me - has anyone else noticed that this thread has had over a million - yes - 1,000,000,views? :clapcheer:


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Postby Aliceinwonderland » Tue May 16, 2017 12:13 pm

1000,000 views, great work everyone :toast:
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Re: Golden Eye Int LTD / GEIL / MIRCOM / TCYK Threat Discuss

Postby MrBlue » Thu May 18, 2017 2:20 pm

Fantastic result to all who contribute here - without you all, I would have not known what to do, and with all the help and advice, I too beat these :wank :toast:
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Re: Golden Eye Int LTD / GEIL / MIRCOM / TCYK Threat Discuss

Postby bpaw » Sat May 20, 2017 6:28 pm

Absolutely fantastic having 1m+ views on this thread. Proof that so many Copyright Troll victims receive the help they need here. Those trolls view popularity with how many "Twitter Followers" you have. Would they have so many Twitter followers if they knew the trolls target grandmothers with demands of £600 for an alleged infringement?

I do say also that it is with sad reflection that 1m+ views is damning testimony for how this scam has managed to survive so long with so many victims being targeted with such a vile scam.

It brings me on to an idea I can pass on to GEIL et al. With the resent outbreak of the Wanna Cry ransomware scam, it occurred to me how similar this is to speculative invoicing. The effect of a letter of claim I see no more different than ransomware. Quite simply gaining money by some form of threat.

GEIL et al should cut the crap and make a modified version of Wanna Cry for the purpose of what their "claim" is, and tailor it accordingly:

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Well done and thank you to all viewers, posters, moderators and admins. :toast:
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Re: Golden Eye Int LTD / GEIL / MIRCOM / TCYK Threat Discuss

Postby Hickster » Fri May 26, 2017 6:02 am

Copyright Troll Robert Croucher ditches companies?
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Re: Golden Eye Int LTD / GEIL / MIRCOM / TCYK Threat Discuss

Postby bpaw » Fri May 26, 2017 5:09 pm

Hickster wrote:Copyright Troll Robert Croucher ditches companies?
https://acsbore.wordpress.com/2017/05/2 ... companies/

Hickster mate, you cause so much hassle to these copyright trolls! Grim reaper of copyright trolls is becoming your reputation!

Great post and certainly more than just an expose on just Croucher, and also another example of these weedy trolls who try to extricate themselves from their dishonourable past.

Take a bow Hicks! :bow:
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Re: Golden Eye Int LTD / GEIL / MIRCOM / TCYK Threat Discuss

Postby bpaw » Fri May 26, 2017 6:39 pm

Just as a matter of interest, I looked back at the GEIL Court Case back in August 2015.

Daniel Anthony Leal of Immoral Productions provided a statement dated 17th January 2013 giving the Licensor (Leal) the Licensee (GEIL) the necessary requirements for GEIL to conduct their alleged accusations. The duration of the agreement is 2 years from effective date. The witness statement dated 16th December 2014 suggests a supplemental agreement.

By August 2015, Leal provided a list of all movies he claims copyright over which includes many titles such as "Slumber Party 30" with a release date of 15th January 2015. Obviously by the Court hearing this was a title that was part of Leal's "copyright material", but definitely not "released" when he had an agreement with GEIL, or the supplement agreement.

Don't forget, the alleged "monitoring" occurred much earlier than this "agreement". Maybe over a year before.

I feel it a dubious practice for a witness statement from a copyright holder to include film titles that are way outside the boundaries of the time frame of the so called monitoring.

I ask now that anyone who has received a letter of claim from any copyright troll to first check the date of the alleged infringement, and then cross-reference that with the actual release date of the actual film.

I would be very interested in anyone who could provide such a discrepancy.
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Re: Golden Eye Int LTD / GEIL / MIRCOM / TCYK Threat Discuss

Postby Hickster » Mon May 29, 2017 7:27 am

@bpaw

Thanks for the kind words.

Just a small addendum.

Lydia Layton

Creative Services Manager
CMI Business Group
Feb 2014 - Feb 2015

Full Time

I ran the Creative Services Team. This included content, online marketing, website as well as new projects and JVs for the companies. I also acted as Head of Development for the company's Film Fund, and help with the film Anti-Piracy project.


See here https://web.archive.org/web/20151108220 ... -the-team/ it shows Ms Layton clearly at Hatton & Berkeley this is the "new" name for CMI BUSINESS GROUP LTD

This reminded me of some shady sleight of hand between Robert Croucher and Brigite Kudor.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history
(COLLINS MAXWELL INWRAP LTD) Company number 09387353
Incorporated - 13 Jan 2015
12 Dec 2016 CMI BUSINESS GROUP LTD changes its name to COLLINS MAXWELL INWRAP LTD
29 Dec 2016 Order of court to wind up

CMI BUSINESS GROUP LTD (Company number 09387353) 13 Jan 2015 - 12 Dec 2016

NEW COMPANY REGISTERED a DAY after the other one changed its name.

CMI BUSINESS GROUP LTD (Company number10523070)
13 Dec 2016 Incorporation
11 Apr 2017 Final Gazette dissolved via voluntary strike-off

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Re: Golden Eye Int LTD / GEIL / MIRCOM / TCYK Threat Discuss

Postby Wolf » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:36 am

Hi All
I have followed this forum ever since recieving a notification from Sky that I had been identified as using my connection to download copyrighted material.

Let me state for the record that i have nothing but admiration for the team that run this forum and the advice given (which i have followed). I have pondered long and hard on this subject and my plight but please bear with me as i wish to play devils advocate for a moment.

Let me start by saying that i am inoccent of any suggested copyright infringements. I am the bill payer. I don't own a pc/laptop/tablet and i personally use the connection only via my phone and for sky set top box connection. That said it is almost certain that someone within the household has downloaded the material stated in the claim. I have refused to offer names as i haven't personally checked the computer of the individual i suspect and am furious that i have been asked to provide other individual names that Goldeneye can't produce/can't prove who did the deed. However that is not what i wish to discuss/debate.

I have pondered on why Goldeneye continue to expolit a business method which is so open to targeting innocent individuals so with that in mind let me now play devils advocate.

If memory from posts on here serve me correctly approx 12k names were presented to court via the NPO and Sky were asked to offer up the names and addresses of these IP identified accounts. I believe around 10k married up an IP to a valid account (my maths isn't brilliant so round figures help :lol: )

Lets say as in my case where i am sure a breach of copyright may have taken place is for arguments sake 60% of the time correct and the average payment requested was 2 films ie £600 that works out to 6000x600 = £3,600,000 yes 3.6million!

Even just 10% paying would net 600k!

Costs of the NPO which i am sure BPAW calculated as mid £30k say 35k

So a potential profit of £3,565,000k

Or put it another way to break even on the NPO required just 59 people to pay up!!!!!

Its pretty obvious that this business model will continue to be used possibly all internet providers will be trawled again and again over the coming years unless these companies are forced to take legal action and present their evidence before a court.

Its obvious why they don't issues proceedings unless its a slam dunk isn't it? Why bother when guilty or innocent they only want a payment off you and don't care in they get it wrong on a large percentage of the time as there is in effect no oversite of their business model nor redress for the innocent.

I am not making an excuse for the individual i suspect in my household but i object to having to 'prove' it wasn't myself and being asked to incriminate someone else. Thats their job to prove who it was not mine.

The above figures do make sobering reading tho. Expect more NPO's in the future! Keep up the good work guys and gals.
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Postby Aliceinwonderland » Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:41 am

Hi Wolf
I'm really please you stood up to these trolls and its great you can share your story. Everyone who stands strong and does not pay, makes this immoral business plan less profitable, Well done.
I think you hit the nail on the head with your figures, this is not about tracking down pirates and copyright infringers. Its about making money, by any means.

If your up for it please stick around, you maybe able to help others.

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Re: Golden Eye Int LTD / GEIL / MIRCOM / TCYK Threat Discuss

Postby bpaw » Fri Jun 02, 2017 6:53 pm

Hi Wolf, and I provide a thanks to you for contributing your experience and thoughts.

I too would like to add my admiration to the team who run this forum. The admins and moderators provide a tremendous service for the whole forum, and not just this thread. I have mentioned many times previously how so much news, entertainment, science etc stories are posted on this forum that it's an all in one place forum. I do suggest those who frequent this thread to take advantage of everything else this forum offers.

I think Wolf that you put it quite right that you are innocent of the alleged infringement against you. Let's face it, you either did commit the alleged infringement and you know it, or you know that you didn't commit the alleged infringement. Your use of technology pretty much sums up your innocence.

I take you to task you saying "That said it is almost certain that someone within the household has downloaded the material stated in the claim". You could ask others in your household, but probably wouldn't get an honest answer. You could examine the gadgets in question, but that requires a level of expertise which I don't know if you have. You certainly don't have the technology provided to you by your ISP to examine internet access logs. And more importantly, the alleged infringement date/time stamp they claim usually happened about 18 months before the time you receive your letter.

To say "almost certain" means you don't know for sure, so I guess you haven't proven that anyone in your household has committed the alleged infringement. What troubles me more is that saying "almost certain" gives me a feeling that you are inclined to believe GEIL actually have a business model that is built on a sound monitoring of IP addresses allegedly downloading their "copyright" material?

There is no doubt that the IP address monitoring that GEILs "experts" conduct does manage to catch offenders. The question is how successful is the monitoring?

I will say right now from my experience that more people who are not guilty of the alleged infringement pay their "settlement" under duress of legal threats than those who pay their settlement who are actual offenders.

That in a nutshell means to me that the general public data protection has been put to one side for the sake of the so called "copyright" of "copyright holders", which has subjected the general public to unproven and non-acted-upon threats of a Limited company.

As regards the number of IP addresses presented to Court by GEIL vs Sky, I have no idea. I have no recollection the number of of IP adresses presented to Court. The Order did have a figure of £11,425.00 for fixed costs to be paid to Sky for the monitoring, and £2.43 per IP address monitored. 12K IP addresses monitored x £2.43 + fixed costs would be about £40K. Only those who are closely involved in the case would know that there was 12K names disclosed.

My only thoughts on the "rewards" that the plaintiffs could achieve are based on historical accounts of the leaked ACS:Law emails and the GEIL vs O2 case.

The spreadsheets in the ACS:Law leaked emails, and the outcome of the GEIL vs O2 case proved that out of all the IP addresses monitored, there was between 25% to 33% hit rate. That, right out of a fact, diminishes the "rewards". So, let's say 12K IP addresses were "monitored", then about 4K were "hits". The questions is also is that individual hits as in individual subscribers? The leaked ACS:Law spreadsheet had different IP addresses linked to the same subscriber, which could happen with ISP IP address distribution.

So let's say maybe 4K x £600. That's still £2.4m. Handsome rewards for a scam.

But it isn't that straight forward, and 1m+ views on this thread alone shows that 4K victims don't pay. Infringers probably pay, and those innocents who don't or are unable to be provided with proper legal aid may pay, but the vast majority don't pay. That is why the trolls monitor and also have posted their vile lies on this thread. The trolls intimidate. They even intimidate on a public forum!

That proves they don't get the "rewards" they believed they would get.

What is also a massive shame on the actual copyright holders is the actual copyright holders who produced the copyright material only gain 25% of any money paid. 75% goes to GEIL. It is a racket and a scam.

Oh, and to fully justify my stance on how faulty the monitoring/expert witness scam is, I give the following evidence provided by the excellent Andy@TorrentFreak and SJD@FCT:

https://torrentfreak.com/copyright-troll-piracy-witness-went-back-to-the-future-and-lost-170526/

Guardeley as monitors, Daniel Macek and Tobias Fieser as their witnesses are the same dynamic triumvirate that GEIL employ.
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Postby bpaw » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:50 pm

BTW GEIL.......

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A very recent picture of Julian Becker with Dan Leal (aka Porno Dan of Immoral Productions).

Remember my September 2015 post of Leal & Becker?

http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=57634&p=614136&hilit=sausage#p614136

Two months before the Sky warning letters on behalf of Leal.

"Glorious Sausage" Becker fraternising with Leal again.

How do you go from grey hair in 2015 to brown hair in 2017? Never-mind!

As Wolf said, "Expect more NPO's in the future!"
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Postby sunnyd » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:23 pm

*** Thread Interruption ***

We'd like to extend our sympathies to all of our friends in the UK, especially to anyone directly affected by the horrible tragedies that have taken place. It's another day of sad news in London. :(

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Postby bpaw » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:48 pm

That is a lovely sentiment sunny, and thank you.

Still looking at the unfolding news in London, and in light of the tragic and vile act in Manchester that targeted innocent children who only went to a concert to be entertained by a US singer, it is a very troublesome world we live in.

I wish to say that Ariana Grande has given a wonderful gesture of arranging a benefit concert with her musical friends with all proceeds going to the families of the victims of the vile act, whilst also allowing anyone who was at her concert to be allowed in for free. Especially more, Ariana visited the children who were wounded in the terrorism act in hospital.

As you say sunny, US & GB are very good friends.

Thank you.
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Postby sunnyd » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:59 pm

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Re: Golden Eye Int LTD / GEIL / MIRCOM / TCYK Threat Discuss

Postby Wolf » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:50 am

Hi BPAW

I think what i was trying to highlight probably poorly is that the 'scam' works. How well i guess without a real court case will probably never be revealed. The simple fact that Goldeneye continue to seek NPO orders implies that they do make money and probably serious money at that.

Obviously some people contacted have been breaching copyright. I don't defend that. I do object to being targeted, knowing I am innocent but without the means to show my innocence and then being left with a "we will revert" letter.

If these business models are legite surely its in their interests to pursue to the full extent of the law and this gives all parties a chance to air claim/defense and allow the law to rule on the evidence. I doesn't take a law degree to realise why they don't of course. Any failure to persuade a court of their evidence leaves the whole business model in tatters. Hence why they milk the easy kills of the top so to speak and leave anyone who shows fight alone.

Moral of this story is don't infringe and if innocent deny and stand your ground. They will leave you alone as they simply can't afford a failed case as it would expose the whole method for what it is. An attempt to extort money regardless of guilt.
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Re: Golden Eye Int LTD / GEIL / MIRCOM / TCYK Threat Discuss

Postby Aliceinwonderland » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:27 pm

Hi Wolf

Yes this is a scam and I would guess that these :wank are expecting to make money every time they apply for NPO
What anyone reading this forum needs to digest is that these :wank work on fear and intimidation. infringer or not most people would probably have a minor meltdown when a legal looking letter lands on the door mat. These :wank trade on that fear and try to use it against you to extort money and then target more people.

Keeping this thread going gives anyone targeted an opportunity to become better informed and hence make a better decision on how to proceed or seek support from others.

What I find most distasteful about these :wank is they will target anyone, in the full knowledge that they have no idea who or if anyone infringed copyright. In stead they will attempt to intimidate and extort money and will never seek to expose infringers as they know it could blow the whole scam wide open.

Stand strong, don't pay these :wank a penny and enjoy the sunshine :thumbup:
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Re: Golden Eye Int LTD / GEIL / MIRCOM / TCYK Threat Discuss

Postby bpaw » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:38 am

Hi Wolf

Apologies if I may have seemed a little abrupt in reply. It wasn't an intention.

My feeling is the reason GEIL continue to seek NPOs is they may be obligated to. GEIL must arrange some form of legal binding agreement to act on behalf of the actual rights holders, which I believe means the rights holder is unable to take separate legal action in the agreed period.

Secondly, having such an obligation wouldn't be a worry if the scam works, in that IF they do make serious money. I believe they don't make enough money to be regarded as "serious money". For the rights holder, it's only 25%, and when you factor in the "settlement agreement" between GEIL and recipient can be £300.00 or lower it doesn't become such serious money.

And again, if the scam works, why do they send Terence Stephens onto this forum to try and intimidate letter receivers when letters are being sent out? Why did Terence Stephens try and ridicule Hickster and me on this forum? Why was there an attempt to smear the reputation of Lawdit Solicitors, and in particular Michael Coyle?

I really believe the scam doesn't work like it used to when they first started this, and their actions are more through obligation. It is basically why GEIL was formed by Becker and Honey, and from what I have learned from some in the industry Honey only releases compilations, so targeting "downloaders" probably is the only income he gets (Apart from being dragged out to do an appearance at some event).

The most important thing is you didn't pay these shysters, along with so many thousands of others! :thumbup:
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Re: Golden Eye Int LTD / GEIL / MIRCOM / TCYK Threat Discuss

Postby bpaw » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:08 pm

As an addition to my feeling that there is no real serious money to be made in speculative invoicing, the copyright holders who were represented by GEIL back in 2012, and who granted GEIL a licence to apply for an NPO are listed below:

(1) Golden Eye (International) Limited, (2) Ben Dover Productions, (3) Celtic Broadcasting Ltd, (4) Easy On The Eye, (5) DMS Telecoms Limited, (6) Gary Baker, (7) Harmony Films Limited, (8) Justin Ribeiro Dos Santos t/a Joybear Pictures, (9) Orchid Mg Limited, (10) Kudetta Bvba, (11) RP Films Limited, (12) Sweetmeats Productions T/A S.M.P, (13) Sll Films Limited, Terence Stephens t/a One Eyed Jack Productions

Only Ben Dover Productions (Lyndsay Honey) Copyright GEIL have acted for in another NPO since, and that is easily explained because Lyndsay Honey is a Director of GEIL.

What is also very telling from the above copyright holders is Terence Stephens, who vehemently defends and self admits being a GEIL fan hasn't granted GEIL any further licences so they act on his behalf again.

Since then we have had GEIL, Mircom (Cypriots who passed correspondence to GEIL after first letter) and TCYK obtaining new prospects to exploit the UK inadequate High Courts.

ONLY Ben Dover Productions have been the constant for GEIL.
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