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How many users on Gnutella?

Postby mslap04 » Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:29 pm

I'm trying to find a global users stat for the Gnutella network, i.e., number of total simultaneous users on the entire Gnutella network...or at least an estimate of this number.

Slyck.com, Limewire.com, and Bearshare.com used to post network stats for Gnutella; however, these have been offline for the past few months. Bearshare currently reports a Hosts number in the bottom right of the application tray; however, I'm am not sure what this number means and if it represents total users?

Can anyone help me find this stat? I can't find it anywhere.

Thanks,
MCP
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Postby wolf202 » Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:48 pm

try looking at the front page...

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Postby mslap04 » Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:50 pm

Unfortunately, these stats are from back in June and Slyck.com no longer updates them.
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Postby SwordOfZork » Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:56 pm

Yeah, the front page stats are well over-due for an update.
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Postby MrFredPFL » Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:03 pm

as has been discussed elsewhere, the stats are no longer going to be updated.

i think the best solution, pending the appearance of the legendary slyck 2.0, is to remove them from the current slyck to avoid this kind of confusion.
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Postby zbeast » Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:15 pm

it's like millions. the real true number is hard to
determine because it's a distributed network.
Because of how the protocol works.
All nodes can't see all other nodes at the same time.

I would say it's about 2 to 3 million.

As the same with "how many licks does it take to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop?"
The world may never know.

As part of one guys Master Theseus he wrote a program to try and map the gunella network.
His program did some very bad things to try to get network statistics.
He created requests packets with TTL's that were very long and he constantly sent search packets out and just counted.
Modern Gnutella clients are smarter now and will no longer propagate search packets like this.

P2P data services like http://www.bigchampagne.com/radio.html
you use to be able to see this type of info on there
page but its no longer available.

Here's another site if you feel like sifting though data.
http://multiprobe.ewi.tudelft.nl/research.html
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Postby LD50% » Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:56 pm

zbeast wrote:As the same with "how many licks does it take to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop?"
The world may never know.


147.2......
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Postby jplus503 » Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:56 pm

zbeast wrote:As the same with "how many licks does it take to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop?"
The world may never know.


3,565(That is to lick all of the candy shell from the Tootsie Pop).
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.
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Postby mslap04 » Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:10 pm

What does the number next to the Globe icon on the bottom right application tray on BearShare mean? They classify this number as the horizon or 'heatbeat'? Is this a rough indication of users across the network? It currently says around 800k.
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Postby LD50% » Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:32 pm

OK, tootsie pop competition!

Whoever net's the right amount of licks, gets to take zBeast out to The Strip House 13 E. 12th St., between University Pl. and Fifth Ave.

Best steaks in da world..... :P
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Postby roomy » Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:26 pm

mslap04 wrote:Unfortunately, these stats are from back in June and Slyck.com no longer updates them.


Actually, Dec 6th 2005 for the Gnutella stat
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Postby gregorio » Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:33 pm

I managed to get my old gnutella crawler to run again and it's showing close to a million ultrapeers plus an unknown number of leaves. In any case, the network is too large to be fully crawled with your average desktop.
LimeWire 4.13 is out. Don't miss it!
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