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DonkeyServers - no more files accepted on this server, sorry

Postby rhclayto » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:24 am

Today I received a message in the log window of my servers tab from DonkeyServer No2: 'no more files accepted on this server, sorry''. What does this mean? Will the servers continue to pull in search results? Will itstill work, but not as well? Will they begin to accept files again?
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Re: DonkeyServers - no more files accepted on this server, sorry

Postby ejonesss » Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:43 pm

are you getting slower download speeds or peers that connect then disconnect shortly later since getting the errors?

if so it could be your isp or the isps of the other peers impersonating peers and sending out the end of transaction command.

somewhere i read that isps are trying to fight p2p by pretending to be a user and sends the end of conversation command to trick the users into disconnecting.
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Re: DonkeyServers - no more files accepted on this server, sorry

Postby zim » Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:38 pm

do you have ALOT of files shared?

thats the only thing i can think of... some servers limit the number of files they will list for you. so some fool with 10 billion little text files doesnt fuck up their database.
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Re: DonkeyServers - no more files accepted on this server, sorry

Postby qm2003 » Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:39 pm

Well, at first i thought those servers were just overrun by users.

But it looks more and more like the time of the ed2k serverbased network is finally coming to an end.
There is some talk, these servers might be shut down due to a recent court decision in Germany.


Weather this is the case or not, everyone who can should make the switch to KAD now and leave the servers.
This will free up the remaining few working servers to serve as KAD bootstapping tool for new users.


For many of the LOWID people i see much trouble, though.
At least for those unable to use KAD.
:nopity:


We'll see how this is developing.


Damn, this day started out so well ...
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Re: DonkeyServers - no more files accepted on this server, sorry

Postby IceCube » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:17 am

qm2003 wrote:But it looks more and more like the time of the ed2k serverbased network is finally coming to an end.
There is some talk, these servers might be shut down due to a recent court decision in Germany.


Even if the servers shut down in Germany, there's plenty in other countries like the Netherlands.

qm2003 wrote:Weather this is the case or not, everyone who can should make the switch to KAD now and leave the servers.
This will free up the remaining few working servers to serve as KAD bootstapping tool for new users.


If everyone is on Kad, how do people even bootstrap to Kad anyway? There needs to be a few users on those servers so that users can bootstrap to Kad.
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Re: DonkeyServers - no more files accepted on this server, sorry

Postby rulle » Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:06 am

afaik it's sufficient to know the ip of another client connected to kad to bootstrap. Servers aren't required.
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Re: DonkeyServers - no more files accepted on this server, sorry

Postby qm2003 » Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:08 am

Even if the servers shut down in Germany, there's plenty in other countries like the Netherlands.

Sorry i didn't make this clearer. Those Donkeyservers hosted in the Netherlands seem to be run by a german company. Hence, they could be forced to shut them down. I'm not 100% positive on this, we have to let play this out to know for sure.

If everyone is on Kad, how do people even bootstrap to Kad anyway? There needs to be a few users on those servers so that users can bootstrap to Kad.

You are right. But for now this is only a problem for completely new users without any IPs to connect to KAD.


Lets hope we are just chicken, running around, making lots of noise about nothing ... :toast:
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Re: DonkeyServers - no more files accepted on this server, sorry

Postby Albion » Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:07 am

qm2003 wrote:Weather this is the case or not, everyone who can should make the switch to KAD now and leave the servers.
Damn, this day started out so well ...
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Lets hope we are just chicken, running around, making lots of noise about nothing.

I hope so too. I didn't connect to the servers yesterday, cos I wasnt sure if the issue was simply maintenance, overload, hostile action, seizure, etc. (importantly, whether or not the servers were "safe") Connecting to Kad-only wasn't good. I've a conservative number of files shared, which usually have 20-50 users queued for them if i'm not downloading and sharing popular stuff. 6 hours on Kad with highID and not one client found me. 0 uploads in that time (I didn't have any queued downloads) What a waste of (my) available upload bandwidth.

If Kad isn't good for rare stuff, and if the server situation worsens, then only popular (and usually the more recent files) will be available? which will make the network little more than a slow and therefore substandard torrent-type affair? Just my thoughts....
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Re: DonkeyServers - no more files accepted on this server, sorry

Postby IneptVagrant » Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:25 am

IceCube wrote:If everyone is on Kad, how do people even bootstrap to Kad anyway? There needs to be a few users on those servers so that users can bootstrap to Kad.
You know how currently u can goto particular web sites, and get a "safe" server list, or a "working" server list... You can do the same thing to bootstrap, http://www.emule-inside.net/nodes.dat for example.
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Re: DonkeyServers - no more files accepted on this server, sorry

Postby Ratt » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:36 am

Well, I can't get on any servers anymore either, on two different internet connections. On both I was using a very short serverlist (only DonkeyServers and one Big Bang) supplied from a German site.

This is a real problem on one connection, because the router can't handle Kad (it starts rebooting every five minutes). Time to buy a new router.

My impression - even in recent times - has always been that lots of people were still using the Server network. If they don't move to Kad, this could affect our file availability in a big way!

You know, the big Razorback crackdown happened a long time ago. Shouldn't an easy way to get onto Kad have been added to the program by now? (like a link to a site with IP adresses or something). I'm a little bit disappointed in the developers right now.
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Re: DonkeyServers - no more files accepted on this server, sorry

Postby Ratt » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:48 am

Albion wrote: I've a conservative number of files shared, which usually have 20-50 users queued for them if i'm not downloading and sharing popular stuff. 6 hours on Kad with highID and not one client found me. 0 uploads in that time (I didn't have any queued downloads) What a waste of (my) available upload bandwidth.


The Kad search is slower than a Donkey search on a big server, and people are impatient, I'm afraid. Could that be part of the reason?

BTW, we should probably add http://www.emule-inside.net/nodes.dat to the Resource topic.
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Re: DonkeyServers - no more files accepted on this server, sorry

Postby Induna_ » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:21 am

http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/92760

Clear your server list then add the white ones from this list

http://gruk.org/list.php?sort=users

As I can see from the informations in the server list, Razorback servers (3.0 and 3.1) has now decreased the soft limit to 300 files.....
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Re: DonkeyServers - no more files accepted on this server, sorry

Postby IceCube » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:18 pm

Induna_ wrote:http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/92760

Clear your server list then add the white ones from this list

http://gruk.org/list.php?sort=users

As I can see from the informations in the server list, Razorback servers (3.0 and 3.1) has now decreased the soft limit to 300 files.....


Umm, Razorback was seized by police a long time ago. I haven't trusted any server named 'Razorback' since for this reason.

Edit: And with good reason!

Media Defender wrote:Here you go. Please make the top 3 servers below over a million users and over 150M files.

For the 4th server below, 208.68.235.101:46969, make it around 250K users and 30M files. I don’t want its numbers too high because I think it has potential of sticking around since it’s not in a huge IP block. I just want to bump up the numbers high enough so more users start connecting to it.

Thanks,

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Version: 17.08
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Files: 4,188,251

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Re: DonkeyServers - no more files accepted on this server, sorry

Postby Ratt » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:59 pm

Dammit, I just connected to Razorback 3.0 to see if it was alive. And Bluetack's paranoid IP-filter didn't stop me.

Luckily I wasn't sharing or downloading anything at the time.
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Re: DonkeyServers - no more files accepted on this server, sorry

Postby IceCube » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:29 pm

Hey cool! I just found a massive IP ED2K serverlist!

Media Defender wrote:QA,

Ty's real mp3s decoys should be visible on these eMule servers:

| 193.138.221.214 | 4242 |
| 194.213.0.10 | 3306 |
| 194.213.0.20 | 3306 |
| 194.213.0.30 | 3306 |
| 194.30.160.41 | 4661 |
| 212.112.243.146 | 4661 |
| 58.65.232.25 | 12345 |
| 62.241.53.15 | 4242 |
| 62.241.53.16 | 4242 |
| 62.241.53.17 | 4242 |
| 62.241.53.2 | 4242 |
| 62.241.53.3 | 4242 |
| 62.241.53.4 | 4242 |
| 80.190.240.125 | 4661 |
| 80.239.200.101 | 3000 |
| 80.239.200.102 | 3000 |
| 80.239.200.103 | 3000 |
| 80.239.200.104 | 3000 |
| 80.239.200.105 | 3000 |
| 80.239.200.106 | 3000 |
| 80.239.200.107 | 3000 |
| 80.239.200.108 | 3000 |
| 80.239.200.109 | 3000 |
| 80.239.200.110 | 3000 |
| 80.239.200.111 | 3000 |
| 80.239.200.99 | 3000 |
| 81.169.143.167 | 7777 |
| 83.149.117.56 | 4321 |
| 83.149.123.188 | 4321 |
| 83.149.123.189 | 4321 |
| 83.149.74.212 | 4661 |
| 84.16.255.29 | 4661 |
| 85.17.111.4 | 3000 |
| 85.17.111.5 | 3000 |

For the eMule tests what I'd like is spot checks that you can identify these decoys hitting on each of these servers (just test 1 track that you've found we seem to hit well on generally on eMule, no need for it to be any particular track, and no need for it to be either a single or non-single; I'm just curious for a spot check on all these servers).

In addition to this per server spot check, please test the 2 non-singles + 2 singles from each of the 2 albums (so 8 tracks are being tested in total) on servers from a couple different ranges. For example, test the 8 tracks pretty thoroughly on one of the 80.239.200.x servers and on one of the 83.149.x.x servers. Particularly what I'm interested in is whether you can identify any propagation that may have occurred (all the IPs Ty is using for this, I believe, are in the 66.135.x.x range) and whether we look good on any big name servers from this list Ty is using (e.g., Donkey Server, Big Bang).

Let me know if anything I've said is unclear....

Thanks,
Ben


Heh :twisted:

Edit: Server Blacklist anyone?

Code: Select all
+-------------------------------------------+-----------------+-------+
| name                                      | ip              | port  |
+-------------------------------------------+-----------------+-------+
| DonkeyServer No9                          | 064.034.169.045 |  4242 |
| Donkey Server No 21                       | 064.093.090.200 |  8272 |
| xLax                                      | 064.093.090.201 |  9273 |
| !-=www.FreeSexBay.com =-!                 | 064.093.090.202 |  1593 |
| Razorback 69                              | 064.093.090.203 |  1234 |
| Torbe Cerdo                               | 064.093.090.204 |  9238 |
| BiG BanG 14                               | 064.093.090.205 |  2366 |
| !-= www.FreeSexBay.com =-!                | 064.093.090.206 |  4927 |
| www.wmule.com                             | 064.093.090.207 |  4661 |
| BiG BanG x                                | 064.093.090.208 |  9743 |
| Andiamo 1138                              | 064.093.090.209 |  1138 |
| !-=www.FreeSexBay.com =-!                 | 064.093.090.210 |  4661 |
| !-=www.FreeSexBay.com =-!                 | 064.093.090.211 |  4661 |
| !-=www.FreeSexBay.com =-!                 | 064.093.090.212 |  6661 |
| ZIRCONIUM "IRISH"                         | 064.093.090.213 |  7932 |
| ZIRCONIUM "IRISH"                         | 064.093.090.214 |  2937 |
| Razorback                                 | 064.093.090.215 |  7890 |
| Razorback 2                               | 064.093.090.216 |  6868 |
| Razorback 3                               | 064.093.090.217 |  4661 |
| !-=www.FreeSexBay.com =-!                 | 064.093.090.218 |  9439 |
| www.Sofort-Downloads.de                   | 064.093.090.219 |  6116 |
| www.Sofort-Downloads.de 02                | 064.093.090.220 |  4661 |
| www.Sofort-Downloads.de 03                | 064.093.090.221 |  4661 |
| ! * * * * FUCK ME * * * * !               | 064.093.090.222 |  4661 |
| ! * * * * FUCK ME * * * * !               | 064.093.090.223 |  4567 |
| www.Sofort-Downloads.de 01                | 064.093.090.224 |  2794 |
| Byte Devils                               | 064.093.090.225 |  4661 |
| Byte Devils                               | 064.093.090.226 |  8422 |
| Byte Devils                               | 064.093.090.227 |  5000 |
| www.UseNeXT.info                          | 064.093.090.228 |  6869 |
| www.YouFling.com                          | 064.093.090.229 |  7255 |
| muelbomber/turboesel.no-ip.org            | 064.093.090.230 |  7892 |
| Porn Factor                               | 064.093.090.231 |  4661 |
| <{ Tits and Arse }>                       | 064.093.090.232 |  4000 |
| Popgo Anime Server                        | 064.093.090.233 |  2734 |
| Razorback 3.2                             | 064.093.090.234 |  9237 |
| SEXYeMULE#5                               | 064.093.090.235 |  5433 |
| rohan                                     | 064.093.090.236 |  4661 |
| -~=SexMachine=~-                          | 064.093.090.237 |  2121 |
| Razorback 3.0                             | 064.093.090.238 |  5000 |
| JP Server                                 | 064.093.090.239 |  9237 |
| JD2K http://www.telechargerdusexe.com     | 064.093.090.240 |  3000 |
| 2.718281828459045235360287471352662497757 | 064.093.090.241 | 10000 |
| 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55       | 064.093.090.242 |  6666 |
| (x^q)^p + (y^q)^p = (z^q)^p               | 064.093.090.243 |  4661 |
| NiNcubator                                | 064.093.090.244 |  6886 |
| World's Best Donkey Server                | 064.093.090.245 |  4242 |
| OFFICE TEST WINDOWS SERVER                | 065.120.042.225 |  4661 |
| OFFICE TEST LINUX SERVER                  | 065.120.042.235 |  4661 |
| DonkeyServer No1                          | 066.199.250.170 |  8911 |
| Pussy Palace                              | 072.051.033.042 |  6789 |
| Byte Devils                               | 072.051.035.078 |  3306 |
| DonkeyServer No4                          | 072.051.037.107 |  9123 |
| DonkeyServer No3                          | 072.051.037.108 |  9009 |
| DonkeyServer No2                          | 072.051.037.109 | 15932 |
| Divx megaficheros                         | 072.051.038.139 |  5691 |
| ! + + +(-(69)-)+ + + !                    | 072.051.038.140 |  6580 |
| didl0 factory                             | 072.051.038.141 |  1390 |
| ##acabose verbose emule---                | 072.051.038.142 |  2222 |
| The Longest Pirate                        | 072.051.038.143 | 10652 |
| #FAST scramjet                            | 072.051.039.150 |  8763 |
| Serverlist for eMule                      | 072.051.039.151 |  4441 |
| Superdonkey                               | 072.051.039.152 |  9848 |
| Marakuserver                              | 072.051.039.153 |  4242 |
| La Vida Loca                              | 085.013.194.007 |  6652 |
| SexyBitch.nl                              | 087.239.051.002 |  4664 |
| Nederlands Geslacht                       | 087.239.051.126 |  6000 |
| BiG BanG 1                                | 088.191.034.074 |  6666 |
| Fuck Buddies                              | 208.068.235.101 | 46969 |
+-------------------------------------------+-----------------+-------+


Media Defender wrote:Here you go. Please make the top 3 servers below over a million users and over 150M files.

For the 4th server below, 208.68.235.101:46969, make it around 250K users and 30M files. I don’t want its numbers too high because I think it has potential of sticking around since it’s not in a huge IP block. I just want to bump up the numbers high enough so more users start connecting to it.

Thanks,
Tabish

1)eD2K Server
Name: Razorback 3.0
Description: http://www.razorback3.com - feel the power!
IP:Port: 64.93.90.238:5000
Version: 17.08
Users: 65,441
Files: 4,188,251
Connection: Normal

2)eD2K Server
Name: DonkeyServer No9
Description: http://www.First-Load.de / dual opteron 16gb / germany
IP:Port: 64.34.169.45:4242
Version: 17.05
Users: 94,654
Files: 12,399,693
Connection: Normal

3)eD2K Server
Name: SEXYeMULE#2
Description: http://www.allsex69.com
IP:Port: 72.51.41.81:9473
Version: 17.14
Users: 6,328
Files: 0
Connection: Normal

4)eD2K Server
Name: Fuck Buddies
Description: women for any occasion
IP:Port: 208.68.235.101:46969
Version: 17.10
Users: 57,274
Files: 7,503,010
Connection: Normal


They were effectively faking stats to make them more attractive.
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Re: DonkeyServers - no more files accepted on this server, sorry

Postby jonas.milabe » Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:56 pm

Hi all,

maybe this is the time to start using anonymous P2P like

http://www.i2p.net

a bit slow but RIAA won't get you...
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Postby MrFredPFL » Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:35 pm

hi jonas. i hope you're not planning on spamming that every time you see anyone post any problens with the protocols they currently use :roll:
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Re: DonkeyServers - no more files accepted on this server, sorry

Postby Drake » Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:43 pm

IceCube wrote:They were effectively faking stats to make them more attractive.


MediaSentry has been using this trick since 2005, or maybe even earlier. It's nothing new but effective since a lot of people don't obtain .met files from verified sources.
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