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eD2k has the largest file collection?

Postby P2P_G » Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:38 pm

eD2k with Kad or Overnet has over 530 million(only eD2k) files :) FT has only like 300 million(299 million fakes hehe) there is not so many fakes on eD2k :) What do you think?
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Postby HouseCrowd » Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:46 pm

Yep, it's unbeatable for selection! :) Can be veeeeeery slow at times though ...
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Postby Dycck. » Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:47 pm

I think that eD2k/Kad/Overnet have served us well...

But also, BitTorrent for it's efficientcy in speed on 'Private' trackers and DVD-R's that were and are available on 'Public' trackers, indeed 'Private', unlike eD2k/Kad/Overnet.
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Postby P2P_G » Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:49 pm

HouseCrowd wrote:Yep, it's unbeatable for selection! :) Can be veeeeeery slow at times though ...


Yeah i know but there is every movie i want on eD2k! :) yes it can be slow but i always get what i want! There is so damn much russian movies/music on eD2k :) With Kad/overnet your download are much faster :)

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Postby bitz » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:21 pm

Yeah it has the most content you will never likely ever manage to completely download. :P
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Postby LaX » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:50 am

ed2k is known for its quantity. Its like a great Seismosaurus. Huge but not very fast :wink:
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Postby qm2003 » Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:04 am

Put in scores of 10 or 100 mbit connected clients, like in the early times of the ed2k network, and you're going to see blazing speeds.

I guess, those lucky bastards don't like sharing with the slower masses, they tend to stay with their own kind in private circles. :twisted:
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Postby Gausselimination » Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:32 am

thats basically why i dont use it. why ul at 10mbit when i can only dl at 5-10 kB/s. waste of time imo.
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Postby LaX » Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:40 am

qm2003 wrote:Put in scores of 10 or 100 mbit connected clients, like in the early times of the ed2k network, and you're going to see blazing speeds.

I guess, those lucky bastards don't like sharing with the slower masses, they tend to stay with their own kind in private circles. :twisted:

Yeah. I remember seeing a person with a gigabit line connection on a private tracker. He/she uploaded to like 10 people at the same time and still gave me great speeds :P
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Postby Overnet User » Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:24 am

I still get great speeds with Edonkey2000/Overnet. I use bt often though to transfer files 8gb up to 51 gb. I don't think the donkey supports files that big.
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Postby P2P_G » Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:58 am

Overnet User wrote:I still get great speeds with Edonkey2000/Overnet. I use bt often though to transfer files 8gb up to 51 gb. I don't think the donkey supports files that big.


Yes eMule does! the new eMule 0.47a does suport bigger files :) take a look in the eMule forum overnet_user :) Overnet is wery fast :) faster than Kad.. if Overnet could only have so much users =P
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Postby Ratt » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:54 am

P2P_G wrote:
Overnet User wrote:I still get great speeds with Edonkey2000/Overnet. I use bt often though to transfer files 8gb up to 51 gb. I don't think the donkey supports files that big.


Yes eMule does! the new eMule 0.47a does suport bigger files :) take a look in the eMule forum overnet_user :) Overnet is wery fast :) faster than Kad.. if Overnet could only have so much users =P


If Overnet had more users then it would have more rare files, thus the average speed would go down and it would become more like Kad in every way. There is a trade-off between selection of files and speed that is unavoidable.
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Postby abou105 » Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:10 pm

Ratt wrote:
P2P_G wrote:
Overnet User wrote:I still get great speeds with Edonkey2000/Overnet. I use bt often though to transfer files 8gb up to 51 gb. I don't think the donkey supports files that big.


Yes eMule does! the new eMule 0.47a does suport bigger files :) take a look in the eMule forum overnet_user :) Overnet is wery fast :) faster than Kad.. if Overnet could only have so much users =P


If Overnet had more users then it would have more rare files, thus the average speed would go down and it would become more like Kad in every way. There is a trade-off between selection of files and speed that is unavoidable.


True dude, overnet used to be amazing i would never use it over ED2K when i was a prominant user on that network, but it lost its qualtiy and appeal to me, maybe this is another network that i should retry.
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Postby ehsan » Thu May 11, 2006 9:10 am

e donkey can find anything ! u can can even find ur own nude picture here if u search proprtly .. hahahaha
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Postby P2P_G » Thu May 11, 2006 9:39 am

ehsan wrote:e donkey can find anything ! u can can even find ur own nude picture here if u search proprtly .. hahahaha

hahaha yeah thats true XD
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Re: eD2k has the largest file collection?

Postby semimodo » Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:02 pm

2008 update

Use to be a wonderful network. As others have said here it had an amazing variety of files, and that was the main reason I use to use it. There was stuff on there you couldn't find anywhere else, but with the advent of bittorent and its increased popularity, that became less and less the case. You can now find stuff on bittorent that isn't on ed2K, and as I have previously stated it was the other way around before.

It's funny to look back, but about the time of the previous post I was a regular user, but things have changed. It doesn't matter how good the network/client is you still have to have the large numbers of people, and sadly thats been declining. It's still fairly popular, but nothing like the numbers it had a couple of years ago. In a way now it reminds me a little of fasttrack when it was on the decline, variety going down..........but still an amazing amount of porn! :wink:
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THE NEW ERA OF INSTANT GRATIFICATION

Postby chainmail » Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:51 pm

To re-bump an oooold thread, I agree that ed2k has declined drastically in the last few years, but the sad part is that nothing seems to be replacing it. eMule was designed for the specific purpose of enhancing the availability of rare content, as opposed to BitTorrent, which was designed to encourage rare content to drop off the network in order to promote faster download speed of the popular material that remained.

Although there are still a lot of ed2k users, very little new content is being added by indexing sites these days. Most of the popular indexing sites have long since shut down, and the remaining ones have never developed much of a following.

The industry cartels might claim this as a victory, but the migration to Bittorrent means that the most popular, heavily promoted new material (where most profits are made) gets widely distributed almost instantly, while the essentially non-commercial material has become harder to find.

Usenet and edonkey complimented each other well. I greatly preferred ed2k to torrents for this reason, since I could always get popular files - quickly and especially safely - using Usenet binaries.

In recent years there has been some attempt to place small and rare files on torrents, usually as a huge batch of files in a single torrent that allows individual file downloading, but unlike edonkey files, which often remain on the network for years, these torrents tend to quickly extinguish themselves because few people care to remain seeding them.

Emule's much-maligned slow downloading speed was in fact the prime reason why so much content was available on the network. If people were forced to stay online continuously for days or weeks to complete files, it meant that much more time for their entire download folder to be available for sharing. (edonkey was the first P2P that forced users to share downloading files.)

It's this impatient grab-and-go attitude among so many users that has been the biggest reason for bittorrent's rise and ed2k's decline. I would gladly trade download speed for additional content, but it seems that my preference is definitely in the minority.
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Re: THE NEW ERA OF INSTANT GRATIFICATION

Postby Ratt » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:19 am

chainmail wrote:Although there are still a lot of ed2k users, very little new content is being added by indexing sites these days. Most of the popular indexing sites have long since shut down, and the remaining ones have never developed much of a following.


Personally, I never used indexing much (except anidb.net , if that counts as an indexing site); the search inside Emule was usually enough for me, so this part of the decline is something I didn't even notice. But it is true that - for example - many obscure animes that might have had 6 or 7 sources a few years ago, these days in order to get those you often have make do with just the one source (which still works but is a bit like cord dancing over the void for an awfully long time).

Also, I noticed that the relative amount of content in languages other than English (primarily French, German, Italian, Spanish, and to a certain extent Chinese, Brazilian and Polish) has been increasing vis-à-vis the anglophone material. It is as if the continental users tried to make up for the fact that many Americans left the network, but the total amount of files went down even so.

Emule's much-maligned slow downloading speed was in fact the prime reason why so much content was available on the network. If people were forced to stay online continuously for days or weeks to complete files, it meant that much more time for their entire download folder to be available for sharing. (edonkey was the first P2P that forced users to share downloading files.)

It's this impatient grab-and-go attitude among so many users that has been the biggest reason for bittorrent's rise and ed2k's decline. I would gladly trade download speed for additional content, but it seems that my preference is definitely in the minority.


You said it. Bit sad, innit?

But that reality certainly doesn't mean the network is dead. Last time I checked there were 2.4 million people using emule. A comedown from the days when that number went above 4 million (not that the stat inside the Mule was very reliable then, nor is it now, but it's what we have). Even so, for instantly finding rare files, it's still the place to be.
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Re: eD2k has the largest file collection?

Postby Fartingbob » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:03 am

Usenet has the potential to be a great place for rare files now that retention of the premium servers ranges from 110 to 240 days. Only a few years ago anything more than a month seemed impressive. The longer retention gets the better it'll be for the rare files.
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Re: eD2k has the largest file collection?

Postby Dazzle_2 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:51 am

I have only tried the network twice, both times I found it slow and gave up, what seriously is the point of waiting days for a small file, I,m not an impatient man but when I endeavour to try a test download for an ebook I dont expect to have to upload 100Megs of content first and still not get a miniscule 400k file, this is ridiculous and TBH I feel the system is abusively leveraged against new users.

Tell me things have improved since that test, after all if I wanted to look at shared files but never download anything I would have obtained a job at BayTSP :wink:
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Re: eD2k has the largest file collection?

Postby Ratt » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:17 pm

Dazzle_2 wrote:Tell me things have improved since that test, after all if I wanted to look at shared files but never download anything I would have obtained a job at BayTSP :wink:


So...where do you get your free, obscure ebooks (i.e. something other than the last Harry Potter or Sun Tzu's Art of War) instead?
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Re: eD2k has the largest file collection?

Postby Ratt » Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:59 am

Fartingbob wrote:Usenet has the potential to be a great place for rare files now that retention of the premium servers ranges from 110 to 240 days. Only a few years ago anything more than a month seemed impressive. The longer retention gets the better it'll be for the rare files.


If retention rates keep going up, then yes, it certainly will be (although it must be said that the edonkey network has rare files that have been on it for a hell of a lot longer than 240 days).
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Re: eD2k has the largest file collection?

Postby qm2003 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:05 am

I just checked up on a few of my oldest ed2k booty out of curiosity.
Still available.
Wow. :toast:


Once the usual usenet retention reaches 7x365 days, we can talk business. :mrgreen:
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Re: eD2k has the largest file collection?

Postby chainmail » Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:15 pm

qm2003 wrote:I just checked up on a few of my oldest ed2k booty out of curiosity.
Still available.
Wow. :toast:

Same here. Some of the ancient releases I made way back over 7 years ago on the old eDonkey Request (Masenka) Forum are still available.
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Re: eD2k has the largest file collection?

Postby HKM » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:44 pm

eD2k is known for rare files and its large file diversity. So if you are NOT downloading fire up aMule/eMule and upload I am sure what you have someone will download. Unused bandwidth is wasted bandwidth on unlimited line.

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