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Postby Paladwyn » Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:19 pm

Looking at piecing together a DVR media center from a bunch of parts I got sitting around. Gonna use a Athlon 2000+ processor and board with a hard drive and another drive on a removable rack, a DVD rom. Will jack in as much memory as I can scrounge up and the heart and soul of the machine will be my Radeon 9800pro AIW card.

My question is for all you people that have already done this...I am going to use XP, as Vista won't run on the machine, and I really don't think Win7 will perform very well either.

Is XP media center edition worth looking into, or can somebody suggest another program that performs better. I played with MCE before and was highly unimpressed, so I would prefer to use vanilla XP and a really awesome program that will allow me to record and playback media with little hassle.
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Re: BYODVR

Postby bmh67wa » Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:01 am

Check this out: http://www.team-mediaportal.com/

I hear it's pretty good but I use a Vista PC for mine and love it. :P
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Re: BYODVR

Postby jokster » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:40 am

i've heard very good things about gbpvr. there is also xbmc live (xbmc with a tiny linux install), which means you can skip windows altogether and have a good fast boot up - mind you i'm not sure how xbmc runs with a tv card, but it is well worth a look at as its a kick ass app.
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Re: BYODVR

Postby Paladwyn » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:53 am

Mediaportal hunh.. looks interesting.

Will take a look at gbpvr. I want to skip running linux on it, as I am considering having it stream flawlessly, use an ATI wireless IR remote and be able to connect to it using Livemesh so I can start recording from any computer connected to the internet.

Sure I could eventually get the same features with a Linux distribution, but in a long convoluted process. Windows will be easier :)
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Re: BYODVR

Postby MrFredPFL » Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:53 am

jokster wrote:there is also xbmc live (xbmc with a tiny linux install), which means you can skip windows altogether and have a good fast boot up


not trying to start a war, or be a fanbhoi - but i just thought i'd mention this. i ended up, through circumstances both inconvenient and unexpected, running vista a few months ago. as a whole, i am NOT impressed. but credit where credit is due - one thing i DO like about vista is the fact that it both boots up and shuts down promptly. good points about vista are, imo, few and far between - but startup and shutdown speed are definitely good points.
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Re: BYODVR

Postby Paladwyn » Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:08 pm

I thought about Win7...but on a 2000mhz, well.. hmm, I think I have a 2400mhz board and chip kicking around...or a couple of them.

Anybody try jamming win7 on a machine similar? My worry is that I won't be able to scrape up enough ram to make it feasable.
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Re: BYODVR

Postby Fartingbob » Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:45 pm

I can run w7 beta on my netbook. Its not ideal, but it runs seemingly just as well as the preinstalled XP. Not as good as ubuntu though. netbooks like ubuntu (well the ones that have wireless adaptors ubuntu knows. Otherwise its a pain).
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Re: BYODVR

Postby multivariable » Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:58 pm

MrFredPFL wrote:...one thing i DO like about vista is the fact that it both boots up and shuts down promptly. good points about vista are, imo, few and far between - but startup and shutdown speed are definitely good points.

i think you're the only vista owner that i've ever heard say that, and it sure ain't the case at my place.
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Re: BYODVR

Postby MrFredPFL » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:36 pm

multivariable wrote:
MrFredPFL wrote:...one thing i DO like about vista is the fact that it both boots up and shuts down promptly. good points about vista are, imo, few and far between - but startup and shutdown speed are definitely good points.

i think you're the only vista owner that i've ever heard say that, and it sure ain't the case at my place.


interesting. i can imagine a few reasons that might explain the differences. this install is pretty clean, i have installed comparatively few programs so far. this is home premium [sic] - what version(s) do u have? also, i have very simple hardware here. no idea if any of these things are relevant or not. :?
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Re: BYODVR

Postby Fartingbob » Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:03 pm

My vista runs really quick since i stripped all the useless crap from it with nlite.
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Re: BYODVR

Postby multivariable » Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:19 pm

MrFredPFL wrote:interesting. i can imagine a few reasons that might explain the differences. this install is pretty clean, i have installed comparatively few programs so far. this is home premium [sic] - what version(s) do u have? also, i have very simple hardware here. no idea if any of these things are relevant or not. :?

I know we're drifting away from the gist of the thread, but I have laptop running genuine Vista Home Premium that boots and shuts down much slower than my desktop P4 running genuine XP SP3. The desktop XP has much, much more installed on it than the laptop. The laptop has more RAM and a faster processor.
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Re: BYODVR

Postby MrFredPFL » Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:35 pm

:lol: sorry, didn't mean to imply my vista wasn't genuine. it is. the [sic] was my editorial comment about the name "home premium" ;)

this is a bottom of the line compaq desktop. starts up quick, shuts down quicker.
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Re: BYODVR

Postby Paladwyn » Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:56 pm

I'm thinking I will have a gig...maybe 2 gigs of ram available to me. At those numbers Win7 probably will choke a bit.
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Re: BYODVR

Postby bmh67wa » Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:53 pm

I have Windows 7 running in a VM with only 1GB of RAM allocated to the VM and it's pretty quick - almost as fast as my Vista laptop with 2GB of RAM. If that's any indicator then you might want to give 7 a try. It works pretty well on an old HP laptop with only 512 too though one must have patience when waiting for programs to open.
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Re: BYODVR

Postby karlrobertuk » Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:06 pm

win7 should run fine if you have 2g, give it a try you might just like it.... :D Win 7 is what vista should of been like, fast boot, good for networking will set most things up for you automatic, just make sure you download all your latest drivers and away you go.
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Re: BYODVR

Postby Paladwyn » Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:33 pm

Finished putting the rig together. Had 1GB DDR333 installed, it hates any more than that. Adding in ram to the last slot causes it to not boot. So, just 1GB of ram is all I got. I have a 10GB hard drive as the primary boot drive, and have a 40GB drive on a removable rack, temporarily.

It's a 2.4Ghz Intel with my 9800pro AIW. Testing out a few things so currently have XP MCE on it, will see what program I like before choosing.
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Re: BYODVR

Postby jokster » Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:58 am

i forgot to mention - you can get xbmc for windows too
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