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Postby tiny4eva » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:04 am

Just thought id pick a few ideas from the boffins over here. Ive just moved to ubuntu Linux, and im made up with it. Im also made up with the free software that comes along with it. But since im new, im hitting a few problems of which is actually good and bad. Ive been made up with open office. That made up ive took the M$ stuff off my works pc and installed it. Now i see a few help sites round the net but nothing beats a forum of people that have actually used said software and not getting a back hander from someone to say nice things about a pile of crap. So what Linux/windows free/opensource software do you use and swear by.
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Re: Free Software

Postby SwordOfZork » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:27 am

1. What does "made up" mean in that context?

2. What particular type of software are you looking for?
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Re: Free Software

Postby Tyranoth » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:43 am

Open office does everything that MS version does. The only sticking point is that Open office does not recognize MS Office 2007 format. Thats easily overcome tho, just save in an older MS office format and Open office will open it.
http://www.openoffice.org/
BTW the newest Open office is not installed on Ubuntu by default so Ive added a link on how to add that repository and and a simple upgrade to get you to the newest version.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml

Ive tried most the offerings for bit torrent on Linux but I find myself coming back to Utorrent. Utorrent doesn't have a Linux version but you can install Wine and Utorrent runs well from that environment.
http://www.utorrent.com/

Wine as stated before is a windows environment that runs windows apps. Wine is complicated for the average windows user because a lot of tweaking has to be done and most apps wont run out of the box with out some tweaking.
http://www.winehq.org/

I would recommend trying wine-doors also, its a app that can install some windows Dependant files in wine to help with windows app installation. Its also have a few preconfigured apps that will help you run some apps out of the box.
http://www.wine-doors.org/wordpress/

If you are into gaming. Cedega might be a great choice. Its not free, its a wine derivative that has preconfigured windows games that run in Linux smoothly. The same can be done in Wine but it can be time consuming to tweak wine to run your app/game.
http://www.transgaming.com/

If your using Ubuntu, would recommend downloading and trying Ubuntu tweak. Lots of little things in that app that help your Ubuntu install. Everything from third party vendor software to a simple remove mounts from desktop options.
http://ubuntu-tweak.com/

If you are interested in a Dock on your desktop similar to a Mac, have a loot at Cairo-Dock.
http://www.cairo-dock.org/

If your like me and don't like waiting for Ubuntu to update there repository's have a look at Getdeb for the newest versions of apps in Debian format.
http://www.getdeb.net/

VLC works for Linux also andI I would recommend it for all your media. The Ubuntu repository version is old and broken. Use this link to get the newest version installed.
http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/09/16/install-vlc-media-player-092-in-ubuntu/

After talking about VLC you will need the Ubuntu restricted extras for proprietary's such as mp3, WMA and QuickTime, Flash plugin, Java Runtime Environment (JRE), etc.
http://ubuntuexperiment.wordpress.com/2008/11/10/installing-restricted-formats-on-ubuntu-810/

Ubuntu comes with Evolution for email. I personally recommend Thunderbird. I prefer Thunbeird because of the Webmail add on that allows you to access Hotmail,yahoo mail lycos mail, AOL mail, Libero mail, and even Gmail (even tho there pop mail is free anyways". Yes I'm talking about the free web mail, not the pop mail.
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/
Web mail add on's.
http://webmail.mozdev.org/

Firefox comes installed on Ubuntu standard and I highly recommend it. A good alternative is Opera. If your really up to the challenge u can actually run Internet explorer in Wine.
http://www.opera.com/

Do you have multiple PC's in your home network with different Os's. If so you may need some help with setting up file shares. Here is a simple peer to peer set up you can follow.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605

If you like eye candy on your machine have a look at Gnome-look. Lots of user made themes wallpapers log in screens etc.
http://www.gnome-look.org/

Task manager in Windows is system monitor in Ubuntu. Here is a link to set it up to open with ctrl alt del just like task manager.
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/19234

If for some reason you need to test out either a new Linux distro or your interested in messing with a windows OS, try Virtual Box. Its a Virtual machine that can run a guest OS.I am adding a link but I do believe that the Ubuntu repository now has the newest version so u can just ad it from the add/remove programs lists.
http://gerry.ws/2008/10/332/virtualbox-204-now-available-support-for-ubuntu-810-added.html

Linuxappfinder site is dedicated to compiling lists of alternative programs to the ones you may have used in windows. This site seems to be down for maintenance as I type this, but keep this site in mind when its back up and running.
http://linuxappfinder.com/

50+ Resources For Your Linux
http://www.internetling.com/2008/10/28/50-resources-for-your-linux-setup-desktop-machine-brain/

Like to add a few general knowledge info at the end also. Most problems you will encounter will be that you click a link/shortcut to an installed app and nothing happens. One the great things about Linux is you can run that same app from the terminal. When running from the terminal it will report the hidden info in the background that can and will alert you to problems.

One of the most common is a missing lib files. A lot of times that can simple be solved by going to the synaptic package manager and searching for the missing lib file to download. If thats not the case the error message you do get will help you to diagnose and fix the problem. Google is your friend, type in the the OS (example) Ubuntu the version (Example) 8.10 and then the error message.

There is such a huge base of users that constantly work on issues as a community that you will easily find the answeres you seek. One the problems that newer users run into is they don't know the name of the app or utility giving them trouble and it makes it difficult to ask others for help. SO keep it simple until you get an idea what is causing your system problems.

Last thing I would mention is repository's. Ubuntu keeps apps in its repositorys that its deemed safe for there current version. But most times these apps are older and not up to date. Many apps have there on repository's with the newest version. If you decide to go this rout and not use a Ubuntu repository for a certain app you need to remember to add that apps repository and security key to your update lists. That way when the system searches for updates, it also searches for updates to your non Ubuntu supported apps.
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Re: Free Software

Postby tiny4eva » Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:43 am

Cool nice set-up guide, ill be checking them links out, i was also looking for the likes of commercial software like nero/winavi etc comparisons for free versions. They don't just have to be Linux compatible even windows softwares. I wouldn't mind having a decent list of free alternatives. One that hasnt been muddied so to speak. Many sites i have visited when you look all seem to have a vested interest in one particular programme and well id like to see a list not like that if you know what i mean. Thanks again for the links and the time put into that post.
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Re: Free Software

Postby Tyranoth » Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:25 pm

An alternative to Nero thats free might be CDBurnerXP. Ive used it for sometime and was very happy with its performance and results. This ones windows only (Operating Systems: Windows 2000/XP/2003 Server/Vista).
http://cdburnerxp.se/en/home

On Linux/Ubuntu most prefer K3b. It does not require the K environment but it does require a few libs that it should auto download on install.
http://k3b.plainblack.com/k3b-news

Winavi alternatives, hmm there is a quite a few actually. the first that come to mind is winff that is both Linux and windows compatible.
http://code.google.com/p/winff/

The other one you might be interested in just because it seems really cool is Pytube (Linux only). First link is some background info. Second link is a download path for debian.
Info
http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2008/05/07/pytube-media-converter/
Download
http://www.getdeb.net/app/PyTube

Feel free to post anything else you might be interested in and I'll see what I can dig up.
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Re: Free Software

Postby Xsoldier2000 » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:20 pm

Well, it all depends on what flavor of Ubuntu you are comfortable with. If just Ubuntu, stick with the GTK or Python Based programs so you don't load up your OS with KDE lib's.

I love the Gnome environment and 99% of the time it already has what you need installed. (truthfully, I didn't go through the whole list Tyranoth posted(really good list though), but everything I need is installed.)

If anything else is needed, take a look at Ultamatix (Automatix is gone) and that will install virtually anything else you need.

Good Luck and welcome to the Penguin.

BTW, what exactly did you mean by "made up" in your original post?

EDIT

Tyranoth, I believe you posted this in another thread, but http://linuxappfinder.com/ is a great Open Source equivalent to finding similar Closed Source programs NERO = Brasero....
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Re: Free Software

Postby klondike » Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:15 pm

If you're newbie migrating from windows to linux i would advise to start with a dual boot system first because the chances are that eventually you'll come across hardware that won't work in linux or software that isn't available for linux.My experience with linux started with Ubuntu 6.06 but then i moved over to PCLinuxOS 2007 and have never looked back.I have a lirc setup for my usb remote which i use to activate amorak for playing music files,mplayer for all video files and kaffeine media player to record dvb-t streams and watch dvb broadcasts.As for bittorrent i use kTorrent but i sorely miss not being able to pause torrents in it.uTorrent is my favourite.k3b is my nero equivalent.If you want to do video editing you can try avidemux.However my preference is to dual boot into windows and use Video-redo because i've never had any audio-video synch problems with that.I don't do any word processing so i cannot vouch for openoffice.If you can do without MS Office then good luck to you but i've not been able to dispense with it completely.VirtualBox is a very useful piece of kit to have.You can clone your windows partition into its virtual drive.I have a usb Canon printer and scanner which is not supported in Linux but when i plug it into my windows virtual drive it works as if its connected to the real thing.

It all boils down to personal preference.Thats the great thing about Linux and its free!

BTW can anyone recommend good OCR software for Linux?
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Re: Free Software

Postby tiny4eva » Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:47 am

made up = happy/content/ecstatic lol
But yes ubuntu the new 8.10 worked ok once i put a ati graphics card in instead of the on board nvidia. Seems the last nvidia update is pretty poor reading the forums. But once that hurdle was over i was extremly happy.
Software wise i use daily is office, which is now open office. WinMX, which works now flawlessly in wine and their are some great guides available to show you how to set up over their. And the cache software i use is Linux or windows and offers no problems. Only other thing i used was nero, but having not burnt the dvd and tested it yet, but encode has worked fine devede seems to do exactly what i need.
So dual boot for me isnt required, their is no longer anything on windows that i cant port over, and gaming is done on my chipped xbox360 lol.

So yes to summarise ubuntu have hit the nail on the head with this last release, fora semi newby to linux it was simple to set up and tehir are many forums talking about it for help, im happy with the free software but i feel like i need to educate others to its availability which was the reason for this post.
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Re: Free Software

Postby Tyranoth » Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:42 am

Xsoldier2000 wrote:Well, it all depends on what flavor of Ubuntu you are comfortable with. If just Ubuntu, stick with the GTK or Python Based programs so you don't load up your OS with KDE lib's.

I love the Gnome environment and 99% of the time it already has what you need installed. (truthfully, I didn't go through the whole list Tyranoth posted(really good list though), but everything I need is installed.)

If anything else is needed, take a look at Ultamatix (Automatix is gone) and that will install virtually anything else you need.

Good Luck and welcome to the Penguin.

BTW, what exactly did you mean by "made up" in your original post?

EDIT

Tyranoth, I believe you posted this in another thread, but http://linuxappfinder.com/ is a great Open Source equivalent to finding similar Closed Source programs NERO = Brasero....


Thats a really good site and is listed in the links I put up. Haven't been able to pull that page up the last couple days though. Hopefully it be back up soon.
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Re: Free Software

Postby Tyranoth » Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:00 am

klondike wrote:If you're newbie migrating from windows to linux i would advise to start with a dual boot system first because the chances are that eventually you'll come across hardware that won't work in linux or software that isn't available for linux.My experience with linux started with Ubuntu 6.06 but then i moved over to PCLinuxOS 2007 and have never looked back.I have a lirc setup for my usb remote which i use to activate amorak for playing music files,mplayer for all video files and kaffeine media player to record dvb-t streams and watch dvb broadcasts.As for bittorrent i use kTorrent but i sorely miss not being able to pause torrents in it.uTorrent is my favourite.k3b is my nero equivalent.If you want to do video editing you can try avidemux.However my preference is to dual boot into windows and use Video-redo because i've never had any audio-video synch problems with that.I don't do any word processing so i cannot vouch for openoffice.If you can do without MS Office then good luck to you but i've not been able to dispense with it completely.VirtualBox is a very useful piece of kit to have.You can clone your windows partition into its virtual drive.I have a usb Canon printer and scanner which is not supported in Linux but when i plug it into my windows virtual drive it works as if its connected to the real thing.

It all boils down to personal preference.Thats the great thing about Linux and its free!

BTW can anyone recommend good OCR software for Linux?



Have you tried XSane? It is a graphical front end for the SANE-library. I haven't used this one personally but a lot of fellow Linux friends have recommended it to me.
http://www.xsane.org/xsane-introduction.html
Hope it works for you.
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Re: Free Software

Postby Xsoldier2000 » Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:04 pm

+1 for X-sane

Best scanner OCR package I've ever used. Windows or Linux.
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