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Mission Impossible: EU to ban bomb-making info and terror incitement online

Postby Nutty-Slack » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:59 pm

Story : http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071106-eu-to-ban-internet-bomb-making-rec

Franco Frattini, the EU Commissioner in charge of Justice, Freedom, and Security, has finally taken the wraps off a new EU anti-terrorism proposal that will allow European courts to sentence individuals for "inciting terrorism" over the web. ISPs will be forced to take down any such sites that incite such violence, offer bomb-making instructions, or disseminate "terrorist propaganda."

Frattini has been talking about the plan for months without providing much in the way of details. The proposal is meant to harmonize various national laws on incitement to terrorism and to make clear that they also apply to the Internet specifically. Anyone found guilty of publishing such terrorist propaganda could find themselves staring at the inside of a jail cell.




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Re: Mission Impossible: EU to ban bomb-making info and terror in

Postby Nutty-Slack » Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:08 pm

Experts say West can't stop Web radicalization

http://www.reuters.com/article/technolo ... 0020071106

Johnny Ryan, Senior Researcher at Dublin's Institute of International and European Affairs, said users could easily circumvent any restrictions imposed by the authorities.

"A workable Internet censorship system, even if one were desirable, is not possible within the EU, or anywhere else in the world with a comparable infrastructure or legal norms," he told Reuters.

Web sites could relocate from one country to another unless there was international agreement, while the controversial content was often distributed through services that are hard to block, such as legitimate chat rooms.

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Postby Fartingbob » Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:34 pm

"Oh no, this person registered http://www.how-to-blow-shit-up.com using a flase name! Damn, we cant catch this guy now."
It can be difficult to track down people who make perfectly legit sites that arent bothered about who finds out about it, but im guessing terrorist site owners take more than a little precaution in what they do.
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Re: Mission Impossible: EU to ban bomb-making info and terror in

Postby zbeast » Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:12 pm

This is one of those silly law Ideas that makes it easy for them to arrest people for thinking about a crime.
Even without this Internet information... Any stupid person should be able to make an explosive device.
well... unless your a doctor... you know, those guys in the UK who took a 4x4 and filled it with propane tanks,
set them on fire and pushed the car into the Airport terminal thinking it would explode.

Don't get me wrong.. I think terror is a bad thing and blowing up random people is even worse.
But this kind of crosses the line of free speech.

Also if your trying to track these people all this does is drives them into hiding.
On tv I saw a uk report about a shop owners who were selling on DVD radicalizing media.
You know all the same clap trap... blow yourself and people up for your religion and your free 72 virgins.
I would think that this would be more accessible to wrong headed types than Internet information.
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Re: Mission Impossible: EU to ban bomb-making info and terror in

Postby fischju » Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:29 pm

They would have an easier time trying to arrest people for reading Mystery novels, they are OBVIOUSLY gathering information to commit the perfect murder!
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Re: Mission Impossible: EU to ban bomb-making info and terror in

Postby Mr_Tinkertrain » Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:20 pm

8) psssssssssst......

whatever ya do, don't keyword "loompanics" into the networks...sssshhhh......they're watching :tinfoilhat:
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Re: Mission Impossible: EU to ban bomb-making info and terror in

Postby KTetch » Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:32 pm

Not exactly news, this has been talked about for months - The Pirate Parties around the world even issued a statement about this a month ago - http://pirate-party.us/files/PPI_Press_ ... -10-07.pdf
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Re: Mission Impossible: EU to ban bomb-making info and terror in

Postby Nutty-Slack » Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:48 pm

Well, that's not exactly news either.
Frattini has been talking about the plan for months without providing much in the way of details.

From the primary article and excerpt above.
Some news stories develop and become the subject of further discussion. :wink:

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