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Postby red duck » Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:37 pm

there are numerous bad sides of ft, but i wonder if you think there are any upsides?

well some people say it is great for pr0n, but personaly i use bt for that. a thing i find ft to be great for is older music and older movies, there is ed2k but it can not compete with ft in speed!

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Postby ToM » Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:57 pm

No, IMO. For quality music, SoulSeek & the Mule (e.g. lossless) + OpenFT offer everything I could possibly ask for.

Even if FT has the occasional rare file, chances are it'd be encoded in 128k Old Xing and be painful to the ears.

FastTrack's only good side for me is to reassure me, when I'm feeling down, that I'm better than at least 2.6 million simultaneous humans on earth. Refreshing.
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Postby Jabryl » Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:11 pm

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Postby red duck » Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:26 pm

to be hones when creating this thread i had in mind to discuss upsides of this network, so is there anyone that will defend it?
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Postby Unbiased_Opinion » Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:28 pm

I thought we already had this discussion Red.

Nope, Nope, & Nope.

FastCrap sucks and will suck till the day it dies (hopefully soon). You can get Pr0n on ed2k, newsgroups, BT, DC, or whatever. FastCrap has pr0n if you want mislabeled gay porn or outdated same ol' shit pr0n. Die FastCrap, Die. :twisted:
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Postby ToM » Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:36 pm

red duck wrote:to be hones when creating this thread i had in mind to discuss upsides of this network, so is there anyone that will defend it?


Doubt many Slyck posters will hurry to its defense any time soon. I'm sure there are a few boards out there that appreiciate it though. Still got the URL to those losers on the Halo 2 forum?
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Postby DaBlade » Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:37 pm

It does have one. One we all depend on: It's a large shield for the real P2P networks. Most of the hits sent towards P2P get absorbed by FT and sh!tman networks. Although eD2K is getting to be one of those too...
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Postby DaBlade » Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:39 pm

Oh and I almost forgot, it keeps the leech n00bs away from the other networks, and is the introductionary network for most P2P users. It was my first intro into P2P, and I'm sure it was many others's too.
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Postby kevogod » Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:56 pm

The big upside to it is that you don't have to use it.
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Postby red duck » Mon Nov 08, 2004 5:08 pm

DaBlade wrote:Oh and I almost forgot, it keeps the leech n00bs away from the other networks, and is the introductionary network for most P2P users. It was my first intro into P2P, and I'm sure it was many others's too.


it was my first network.


what do you mean by "leech n00bs"

those that disconect after their download is finished? if so there is a lot of "leech n00bs" on other networks, but ft is still a place where you will find much more "leech n00bs" than on other networks
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Postby Allied » Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:51 pm

Fastcrap is exactly that. Fast, but crap. The only filesharing app thats beaten my speed in KLR is Torrents. Ares hasn't even beaten my KLR record.
Tho, lately theres not much on the network to find, making it crap.

Its still valueable groud in the music wars. Sharmen takes most of the blame. K-lite, KLR and KLT serve as battle stations for the big sharers. It brings in n00bs and teachs the basics. As long as people can still use fastcrap to get music, the RIAA will still concentrate its firepower on it leaving the rest of the networks alone. Kazaa Lite K++ is an acceptable casuality. giFT helps bring in fresh files from other lite clients. MLdonkey is like a hired gun. The plugin for eDonkey is like a signed alliance.

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Postby thejynxed » Mon Nov 08, 2004 7:02 pm

As expressed before: FT is good for keeping the RIAA and MPAA occupied.
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Postby tomy » Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:59 am

How would you explain FT has again more users than ed2k?
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Postby red duck » Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:07 am

i guess that a shitload of users saw me troling on this forum that FT doesn't completly suck so they decided to try it by themselves j/k
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Postby lovedrug » Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:32 am

music videos and it downloads them very fast ..
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Postby in_hiding » Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:38 pm

Major Upside: Searchable, viewable (before DLing) user-added info. I could tag files with all kinds of details & keywords in 'My Kazaa', instead of trying to cram all relevant info into the (limited-length) file name. And there were specific fields like Language you could fill out.

This needs to be the future of P2P. User-tagging is becoming the future of web-browsing, with sites like delicio.us, oishii, flickr (for images) etc.

Others are sort of implementing it: e.g. eMule mods allow users to add Comments to files, but:

a) these aren't searchable; say I add the keywords "demons, comic-book source" to "Constantine-telesync.avi", someone searching for "demons" etc will not get my Constantine file in their search results. This basically neuters the point of user tagging.

b) you can't see the comments until you've already started dl'ing the file.

c) the comments don't accompany the file. if those comments are correct, you have to add them yourself to the copy of the file stored on your computer.

Sure, people can add bullshit tags in the FastTrack system (as in any such system), but being able to see everybody's tags in the Search window, you can 'Ask the Audience'/get the mass opinion on a file before choosing to dl it.

I realise that for a totally-decentralised network, passing on all that user-added metadata would lead to massive overheads. So maybe use totally-dentralised DHT for publicising files, and self-organising supernodes for searching/passing of user-added metadata.

User-tagging's the one thing I really miss from FT.
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