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Postby ashton » Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:56 am

Wham wrote:I don't think Kazaa will ever be able to dump Kazaa Lite because they no longer have control over the Network. Sharman Kazaa has been trying to go ligit for at least 2 years now that I know of but will never have success in my opinion because they rely on spyware/adware advertizing dollars. I think that now they just want to shut down completely. Kazaa lite is what is probably still holding the network up.
Actually KL is harming the network... :wink:
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Postby Ooble » Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:56 am

Ashton, why don't you give 'em a hand instead of taunting them?
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Postby ashton » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:00 am

Ooble wrote:Ashton, why don't you give 'em a hand instead of taunting them?
:arrow: If they contact me, perhaps I can give some guidance...
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Postby Ooble » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:08 am

Alrighty then... you know they're asking for developers, right?
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Postby ashton » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:32 am

Ooble wrote:Alrighty then... you know they're asking for developers, right?
Yes, but it's not really development, it's cracking. :wink:
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Postby Ooble » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:57 am

Fine - you know they're looking for "developers", right? ;)

Seriously, if you have nothing better to do, I'm sure loads of people will be ecstatic to hear that the protocol's gonna get upgraded.
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kazaa lite may rule it's own network

Postby fire01 » Wed Jul 14, 2004 11:13 am

You know the problems happening whit kazaa lite might be good cause the fact that we log to 99000 users means that those users are klite members connected to k-lite supernodes which means kmd and k-lite would be 2 separate network
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Re: kazaa lite may rule it's own network

Postby ashton » Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:20 pm

fire01 wrote:You know the problems happening whit kazaa lite might be good cause the fact that we log to 99000 users means that those users are klite members connected to k-lite supernodes which means kmd and k-lite would be 2 separate network
Wrong, it's the same network, just segregated thus causing overall FastTrack performance degradation.
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Postby tomy » Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:30 pm

REDJ wrote:Lite (who runs FFT) also helps out at FSP.

Why dont you just join his project with k-lite 2.6?
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Postby Drake » Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:50 pm

Ooble wrote:Fine - you know they're looking for "developers", right? ;)

Seriously, if you have nothing better to do, I'm sure loads of people will be ecstatic to hear that the protocol's gonna get upgraded.


In my opinion, it wouldn't be a smart thing for ashton to do. If he were to do this, he should do it under an assumed name - like Random nut did.
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Postby SlyckChuck » Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:55 pm

My bet is Ashton is probably wanting to work on something that is cutting edge or new instead of bailing out or fixing a dying or fading type of application... IMHO


It would be what I would do if I was involved with programming. :idea:
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Postby tomy » Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:01 pm

ln_solitude wrote:My bet is Ashton is probably wanting to work on something that is cutting edge or new instead of bailing out or fixing a dying or fading type of application... IMHO

Can you think of something more "cutting the egde" than fixing FT? :roll:
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Postby REDJ » Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:21 pm

Can you think of something more "cutting the egde" than fixing FT?


Very good point. And Ashton, read your PM's ;)
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Postby REDJ » Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:33 pm

tomy wrote:
REDJ wrote:Lite (who runs FFT) also helps out at FSP.

Why dont you just join his project with k-lite 2.6?


Cause I hate K-Lite :p
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Postby ashton » Wed Jul 14, 2004 2:08 pm

Honestly, i would be much more inclined to work on reverse engineering the supernode system... uploading, downloading, participation level, etc have all been done, if the supernode system was made public then there would be no need to "crack" the legit protocol or make loaders to get the functionality desired. i really do not like working on projects where I don't have source code "KLR". I guess what I am saying is that KLR should lean towards using the already available code for FastTrack and work on the supernode system thus the end result would be a fully open source FastTrack stack that can be modified at a source level and not by code injection. Having said all of that you could start a FastTrack2 from the ground up without the mistakes of the current FastTrack stack.
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Postby tm, » Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:06 pm

With open-source projects like KCEasy that use the giFT Fasttrack plugin, I think it would be a lot better for developers to spend their effort there, rather than releasing cracked Kazaa derivatives. Even putting up a download website containing a full uncrippled version of KCEasy would be a big help - as most users probably do not know enough to install the FT plugin separately.

For whatever reason, it seems very very few programmers are interested in fasttrack, kazaa, or KCEasy - compare that to the vast number of Bittorrent clients, or eMule and DC mods.

ashton wrote:you could start a FastTrack2 from the ground up without the mistakes of the current FastTrack stack.

I was under the impression that OpenFT was just such a network. :?:
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Postby ashton » Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:42 pm

OpenFT development is moving like a snail...
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Postby Ooble » Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:15 pm

Aren't you a giFT developer, Ashton? You're pretty damn good with this sort of thing - do something about it! Or, unlike the rest of us, do you actually have a life?
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Postby ashton » Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:19 pm

Ooble wrote:Aren't you a giFT developer, Ashton? You're pretty damn good with this sort of thing - do something about it! Or, unlike the rest of us, do you actually have a life?
Well I have been running spider maps on OpenFT lately to check on the trends and the such, it has a major flaw in the statistical engine that needs a fixen. However only have limited time between things ATM, but no I don't currently have a life, it's mainly in front of my computer. :cry: :cry:
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Postby Ooble » Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:22 pm

Alrighty then. BTW, will your giFT app ever be available for Windows or Linux?
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Postby ashton » Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:42 pm

Ooble wrote:Alrighty then. BTW, will your giFT app ever be available for Windows or Linux?
No, sorry.
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Postby Drake » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:06 pm

Ooble wrote:Aren't you a giFT developer, Ashton?


I don't think he is. http://sourceforge.net/project/memberli ... p_id=34618
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Postby Ooble » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:20 pm

He's made his own giFT client - I think he can be classified as a giFT developer. I meant a developer that's familiar with giFT.
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Postby Drake » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:28 pm

Ooble wrote:He's made his own giFT client - I think he can be classified as a giFT developer.


Not if he didn't help develop it.

Ooble wrote:I meant a developer that's familiar with giFT.


Ah, I see. A link to XFactor is on the front page.
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Postby ashton » Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:50 pm

XFactor is my Mac giFT client, some say the most popular, but I dunno. I did help on gift-fasttrack back last year and currently work with giFT everyday, porting, customizing, etc... Call it what you want but I am not a giFT developer so to speak, more like a giFT hacker... :wink:
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