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Kazaa Needs to be Revolutionized:

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:30 am
by adeel
According to most of the stats, kazaa is still the second biggest network after emule.
And most people say that kazaa sucks due to obvious reasons i.e fakes,trojens,riaa etc.

Well to be honest most of us got started in p2p realm through kazaa.
It is infact the starting point for all new file-sharers because kazaa is so simple to use and that is the reason why it is so vulnerable.

As people are getting more aware of p2p as compared to past, now it is the high time for sharman network to make some radical changes to kazaa.

Some changes which comes to my mind are:

1 - Better hashing algorithm
2 - Complete new gui
3 - Integrate some antivirus program in kazaa so that if some user shares trojens , viruses or even fakes then that user will get warning that he/she is sharing viruses , fakes... and to unshare this stuff imediately. If user does not unshare thoes files then kazaa will automatically delete thoes files. (it will definetly help in eliminating fake files from fasttrack network).

So What you guys think about that and what changes comes to your minds.
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Re: Kazaa Needs to be Revolutionized:

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:36 am
by P2P_G
adeel wrote:According to most of the stats, kazaa is still the second biggest network after emule.
And most people say that kazaa sucks due to obvious reasons i.e fakes,trojens,riaa etc.

Well to be honest most of us got started in p2p realm through kazaa.
It is infact the starting point for all new file-sharers because kazaa is so simple to use and that is the reason why it is so vulnerable.

As people are getting more aware of p2p as compared to past, now it is the high time for sharman network to make some radical changes to kazaa.

Some changes which comes to my mind are:

1 - Better hashing algorithm
2 - Complete new gui
3 - Integrate some antivirus program in kazaa so that if some user shares trojens , viruses or even fakes then that user will get warning that he/she is sharing viruses , fakes... and to unshare this stuff imediately. If user does not unshare thoes files then kazaa will automatically delete thoes files. (it will definetly help in eliminating fake files from fasttrack network).

So What you guys think about that and what changes comes to your minds.
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I think that there is allredy antivirus program in kazaa - bullguard.

Re: Kazaa Needs to be Revolutionized:

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:59 am
by SlyckScratch
adeel wrote:Some changes which comes to my mind are:

1 - Better hashing algorithm
2 - Complete new gui
3 - Integrate some antivirus program in kazaa so that if some user shares trojens , viruses or even fakes then that user will get warning that he/she is sharing viruses , fakes... and to unshare this stuff imediately. If user does not unshare thoes files then kazaa will automatically delete thoes files. (it will definetly help in eliminating fake files from fasttrack network)


1. This will not help Sharman get more revenue
2. This will not help Sharman get more revenue
3. This will not help Sharman get more revenue

So I predict that Kazaa will implement none of these things. They can't even manage a search filter.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:55 pm
by Allied
1 word, OpenFT.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:57 pm
by AussieMatt
Best way to fix Kazza is eliminate it .

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:32 pm
by Progz
Allied wrote:1 word, OpenFT.


What so good about OpenFT. I mean I tryed the program...hmm forgot whats it called its in your signature and I could barly connect takes forever to connect to that network.

Edit: KCeasy was the program.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:41 pm
by Allied
I believe OpenFT will be the only lasting legacy of Kazaa.

Fasttrack's UUhash is a flaw at the network level. Therefore in order for a rebirth to occure, that flaw needs to be corrected.

OpenFT uses the full MD5.

I'm not saying KCeasy is the next Kazaa. I just think that Kazaa has gone as far as it can go. OpenFT can go further.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:46 pm
by kennyg101
adeel wrote:1 - Better hashing algorithm
2 - Complete new gui
3 - Integrate some antivirus program in kazaa so that if some user shares trojens , viruses or even fakes then that user will get warning that he/she is sharing viruses , fakes... and to unshare this stuff imediately. If user does not unshare thoes files then kazaa will automatically delete thoes files. (it will definetly help in eliminating fake files from fasttrack network).


1 and 2 are answered by Limewire. And 3 is a good idea but I have never seen a built in , working well, anti-virus solution on a filesharing program. Bullguard seems to be crap. I last used it on very early versions of K-Lite.
The basic probalem is that Sharmen networks is not a computer company but rather a marketing one.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 9:16 pm
by Mrs. 2p
I agree with scratch and kenny g. You must remember that sharman are not looking to improve functionality, but to increase income. The only new improved functionality to be implemented will that which leads to increased income. It is a private company in search of profits, and will act as one.

I also agree with the other comments: I think it has become way too rotten to allow for hopes of recovery. If you want Kazaa's ease and straightofrwardness with improved reliability, hashing and user-friendliness, check out the gnutella clients or Ares Lite. If enough users migrate to one of those networks, there is potential for a new Kazaa-type heyday.

Why fully re-make a network which will always be suffering, when better alternatives exist already which need improvement but not full re-making?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 9:22 pm
by zbeast
Why worry about kazaa. It's a closed source p2p application. Used by people as far and I can tell who like downloding fakes, spyware, virus and popups.

Save the improvements for opensource p2p applications.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 9:33 pm
by Ne007
Are you fucking shitting me?

It took you this long to make this post?

you sir are correct...BUT THIS HAS BEEN BLATENTLY OBVIOUS FOR YEARS!

even if they did upgrade their software for once, they are about 2 years too late.

:S

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:01 pm
by P2P_G
KaZaA sux who the f**k needs to use fasttrack/kazaa? there are much better p2p clients out there! I cant belive that people is so stupid to use Fasttrack/kazaa! Gnutella is much better!

Re: :S

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:11 pm
by LANjackal
_Mp2p_ wrote:KaZaA sux who the f**k needs to use fasttrack/kazaa? there are much better p2p clients out there! I cant belive that people is so stupid to use Fasttrack/kazaa! Gnutella is much better!


The network's not completely dead, it's just that it's littered with trash and much more malicious things. But it's not useless - I dredged up a song (emphasis on the "dredged" part) that a certain popular artist made previous to his first major release that I couldn't find ANYWHERE else, sanctioned or unsanctioned.

However, that was around 6 months ago, and the network's my last choice when it comes finding stuff, simply because there are much better options.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:02 am
by wolf202
rather kazza is a large cancerous growth on the ass of P2P it needs to get cut off completely

-wolf

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:11 am
by HoboJoe
It would have been better to be eliminated in 2K5, killing 2 scourges with 1 sto...er...year. Grokster dies in 2005, KaZaa dies in 2005...what a happy year...

Ah well, one can dream...

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:55 pm
by in_hiding
Allied wrote:I'm not saying KCeasy is the next Kazaa. I just think that Kazaa has gone as far as it can go. OpenFT can go further.


I play around with KCeasy every now & then. I don't remember it having user-added, searchable tags/metadata for shared files. That was the 'killer app' feature for me in Kazaa/Morpheus.

Re: :S

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:05 pm
by P2P_G
LANjackal wrote:
_Mp2p_ wrote:KaZaA sux who the f**k needs to use fasttrack/kazaa? there are much better p2p clients out there! I cant belive that people is so stupid to use Fasttrack/kazaa! Gnutella is much better!



However, that was around 6 months ago, and the network's my last choice when it comes finding stuff, simply because there are much better options.


Fasttrack is my last choice to ;)

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:27 pm
by moomoohey
kazaa is like a horse with a broken leg...it just needs to be taken into the back and shot in the head

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:42 pm
by P2P_G
moomoohey wrote:kazaa is like a horse with a broken leg...it just needs to be taken into the back and shot in the head



hahahah yeah thats right :)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:53 am
by adeel
Well by looking at stats


January 24, 2006 - 20:00

Network Users
eDonkey2K 3,214,396
FastTrack 2,638,514
Gnutella 2,219,539
Overnet 931,840
MP2P 252,893
Filetopia 4,631

Kazaa is reaching its peak again. Very astonishing. I wonder if sharman has something to do with it.
Well old is gold and that is kazaa showing right now.
Well i dont use kazaa these days but i have a special place for kazaa in my heart.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:29 am
by acheesebagel
Back in the day......aahhh.....um...oh well it's a sewer now.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:47 am
by Artie
Stats don't mean anything if the quantity outweighs the quality.

I used to use Kazaa Lite and Resurrection a few years ago for pr0n clips, but that was pretty much it.

Ditto with what LANJackal said though. I use FastTrack as a last resort via KCeasy, and even then, I rarely get what I'm searching for on that Network.

Regarding what you said in your first post from a month ago...

adeel wrote:Well to be honest most of us got started in p2p realm through kazaa.


I tend to disagree. I think Napster was the starting point for a lot of us (I won't use the word most since that would imply more than 50%). For me it was FTPs, then Napster. Kazaa and all its clones were maybe 5th or 6th.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:28 pm
by IceCube
For me, it was Napster -> Kazaa -> BitTorrent -> eMule -> UseNet

Use the last three at this point. :)

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:50 am
by LaX
For me it was actually WinMX -> BitTorrent -> DC -> BitTorrent. I tried a lot of other networks though.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:13 am
by adeel
for me it was Kazaa -> Gnutella -> BitTorrent.

As far as fake files are concerned, i have found more fakes on gnutella than kazaa.

The only limitation i have found in kazaa is that it is very poor in searching games. I dont think that kazaa supports iso format. Well it is good for old stuff , great for music and excellent for porn.