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caught using ARES?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:08 pm
by kinkyangel
hey there, i had a received a letter from virgin media (my broadband suppler) saying that they caught me downloading a copyrighted file from ares and that they wont tell the company that caught me out my details..they gave me a warning but next time they will be giving over my details to them....after 3 years of downloading music and file sharing, just cant believe it, its not like i was burning it onto cd and selling pirate albums off!! i don't know if anyone else in the UK got a letter from Virgin or there suppler...now im scared to download music...im gutted! :banghead:

could anyone tell me if they got the same letter?? :shrug:

Re: caught using ARES?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:16 pm
by Fartingbob
Virgin have sent out quite alot of these letters, all the same as yours (just a warning).
If i was you, avoid Ares and other '1-click' P2P apps as these are the ones targeted most by the trade groups. If you really want to be safe while still downloading, your only options are ones where you dont upload at all.
Its the uploading you get screwed over not downloading (despite what RIAA etc tells you), and most P2P networks will automatically share stuff your downloading at the same time, so you cant avoid it.
However, you can use sites like rapidshare (and all the search engines built around it) or usenet. We have a guide for usenet (aka newsgroups). It costs money, but you only download and it will almost always max your download speed. Neither of these are good for grabbing single songs like ares is, but for larger files they are much better.

Re: caught using ARES?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:41 pm
by boneface
Ditch'em!
I used virgin and even had problems with youtube :roll:

Re: caught using ARES?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:51 pm
by HEAT84
Fartingbob wrote:Neither of these are good for grabbing single songs like ares is, but for larger files they are much better.

I don't know. I have little trouble finding songs on Usenet. But the rarer stuff is easier found on P2P's.

Re: caught using ARES?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:47 pm
by Fartingbob
HEAT84 wrote:
Fartingbob wrote:Neither of these are good for grabbing single songs like ares is, but for larger files they are much better.

I don't know. I have little trouble finding songs on Usenet. But the rarer stuff is easier found on P2P's.

Alot of albums on usenet do just keep the mp3 / flac files seperate rather than RAR them up as we more commonly see on BT, so i suppose its not that bad, although you may have to look up what album a song is from to find it depending on how the files are labelled.

Re: caught using ARES?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:17 pm
by Psycho Ced
I use Usenet as my primary source of MP3s for popular songs and new albums but Ares and Emule for older less popular stuff.

Re: caught using ARES?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:38 pm
by chainmail
Fartingbob wrote:Virgin have sent out quite alot of these letters, all the same as yours (just a warning).
If i was you, avoid Ares and other '1-click' P2P apps as these are the ones targeted most by the trade groups. If you really want to be safe while still downloading, your only options are ones where you dont upload at all.
Its the uploading you get screwed over not downloading

These infringement notices - unlike the RIAA's actual ongoing lawsuits against college IP addresses - have nothing to do with actually uploading files. They are based on an IP address being harvested from sources like search results and shared-file lists on Ares, queues on ED2K, and tracker swarm IP lists on Bittorrent. Even if using a hacked no-upload P2P client, you will still get hit by these infringement notices. This is because they make the assumption that if your IP comes up, then you probably possess that file, and are probably uploading that file. They don't need any actual evidence, such as verifying that you can indeed upload the file, before they fire off a claim to your ISP. This is an automated process designed to harvest and report the absolute maximum number of possible infringers. Unlike filing a lawsuit, they have absolutely nothing to lose by accusing innocent people of DMCA violations (in the USA), because the DMCA gives them "safe harbor" protection as long as they make the accusation in "good faith". British law may be similar.

http://torrentfreak.com/study-reveals-r ... cs-080605/

Using an updated IP block list may help, but is not a bulletproof solution.

Re: caught using ARES?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:27 pm
by enigmax
The BPI currently monitor ARES and have been complaining to ISPs about file-sharers, usually just for the sharing of a single track. Amy Winehouse tracks are being monitored 100%, and probably other big name artist tracks.