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Postby HouseCrowd » Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:29 am

Psycho Ced wrote:Hey you forgot
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LMAO


Yeah, how can we forget the best ever, with its 300 billion users!?! :lol:
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Postby LxBeast » Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:39 am

LMAO @ PC :lol:

Nice list Allied, steadily growing as well...
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Postby Allied » Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:28 pm

I was planning on adding Earth Station 5, but my notes on its birth and death have mysteriously been deleted :lol:
I'll keep trying to get a grave up for it. So keep your dancing shoes ready.

CuteMX? Alright, you've stumped me. Never herd of it.

I've been flipping through the TorrentBits.org threads. I was thinking of adding it. But from what I can tell, the site was never attacked by the MPAA or anyone else. They just went down because of software problems. Then attempted to start TorrentBits2, but that didn't work out for an unknown reason. Then got TorrentBytes up and going.
If anyone knows the whole story, fill me in.
If TorrentBits.org was taken down by legal means, I'll give it a grave.
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Postby Mrs. 2p » Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:32 am

although the forums are still alive, and the home page hasn't gone down, those of us who love seeing what others in the world are watching daily when sitting on their sofas in front of a TV have suffered a severe losss with the demise Buck/Share TV. They weathered some nasty moments, though perhaps went a bit too public at times.. a great loss.

Farewell


PS. The full story, from filenexus, to gowenna, to shareactor, to bucktv, to sharetv is on the homepage, if you're in the mood for that sort of gossip :wink:

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Postby tm, » Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:32 am

Allied wrote:CuteMX? Alright, you've stumped me. Never herd of it.

How about Scour Exchange, then? I think that P2P history can't be complete without mentioning these two groundbreaking P2Ps - which have long since passed away. Slyck/Slyway has done many stories on CuteMX and Scour during their heyday as well as reporting the news of their demise.

Unfortunately, since that was several years ago (2000-2001) those stories are gone from Slyck, and newer P2P users may never have known about many of the leading P2P networks that came and went during the early days of file sharing.

Fortunately, there's backup copies HERE in Archive.org. :)
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Postby Assyrian » Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:44 am

sorry allied, ive been searching for a logo/banner for btefnet and couldnt find one, maybe someone with there avatar creating skills could create one?
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Postby Allied » Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:59 pm

2pstudent wrote:although the forums are still alive, and the home page hasn't gone down, those of us who love seeing what others in the world are watching daily when sitting on their sofas in front of a TV have suffered a severe losss with the demise Buck/Share TV. They weathered some nasty moments, though perhaps went a bit too public at times.. a great loss.

Farewell


PS. The full story, from filenexus, to gowenna, to shareactor, to bucktv, to sharetv is on the homepage, if you're in the mood for that sort of gossip :wink:

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Name: BuchTV, later ShareTV
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Died: will find out (sorry! I'm at the office!)
Description: TV links supported by an extremely active community. One of the few anglosaxon sites with links to non-english media
Cause of Death: Too much pressure and heat; also, too demanding on the lives of mods and admins

I see ShareTV and BuckTV as 2 different sites,
we had some internal problems involving embezzlement of donation funds and misuse of our server, which in the end lead to the change from BuckTV to ShareTV

So whoever ran BuckTV was involved in embezzlement of donations, which caused some of the satff to start a new site ShareTV. I'm guessing there was no trial on all this, so there's room for a he said she said argument.
It looks like BuckTV kept going with something(Bucksearch.com?) after ShareTV showed up.

I'd put ShareTV up. But The Way Back Machine isn't cooperating with my historical research. So I can't figure out a date of birth or date of death for ShareTV.

ShareTV's rebirth possibility makes me hesitant to add it. They went down during the MPAA's 1st genocidal wave in Dec 2004, but they wern't sued. So whats stopping them from listing ED2K links today?

I want the Graveyard to be for the truely dead and destroyed sites and programs. Tho alot of them have been survived by something. Suprnova.org has eXeem. Kazaa Lite K++ has KLR and KLT. Napster's OpenNap network is still around. It's hard to figure out where to draw the line. :?: :?: :?:


Assyrian wrote:sorry allied, ive been searching for a logo/banner for btefnet and couldnt find one, maybe someone with there avatar creating skills could create one?

I don't want a banner just for the picture, I want the banner that people will recognize. If btefnet didn't have any art on their page, then I'll change the caption to read "btefnet didn't use banners".



Torrentz.com and Scour Exchange added. I'm working on CuteMX.

Thaks for the help everyone :D
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Postby Mrs. 2p » Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:43 pm

actually, that's not really how it happened allied: share tv and buck tv were both created and run by Buckywheat. However, she never chose to risk using her name to register the site, so one of the staff stepped up to do it. Still, it was *her* site, thought thanks to someone else's good will. Another admin took care of the tech stuff.

At one point in time, there was, as you say.. a loooong he said/she said fight. And then, Bucky, along with ALL members and staff, except one, went on to sharetv. Pretty much the same aesthetics (only somewhat renewed), and they kept their database and the forums intact (which you could access through a click, but not post in).

It's dead because they chose not to risk it for the site. Bucky says so herself in the homepage "I hate to see this project go"... so it has left. They weren't sued because they gave up before that could happen. Now it's just a forum for discussing tv shows, and for not losing old virtual friends. It is no longer a p2p site, despite having been one of the greatest for tv links/rips/releases.

Of course, it's up to you. But I think it certainly deserves a place in the graveyard...
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Postby Psycho Ced » Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:07 pm

HouseCrowd wrote:

Yeah, how can we forget the best ever, with its 300 billion users!?! :lol:

:shock: :shock: :shock: :? ...... :shock:
LMFAO; Please tell me; they were not that foolish to say that!
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Postby Mrs. 2p » Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:11 pm

actually, they said it, and said again, and thebn repeated it, and insisted, and even called everyone else a lamer for not understanding how it was possible.... :lol:
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Postby Psycho Ced » Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:21 pm

Thats funny; I knew they were messed when they said 15 Million.... but 300 Billion .... :?

@ Allied; CuteMX was the Shit! It was exactly like WinMX but was updated very frequently. The interface was beautiful, you could manually start people; you had permanent friends and block lists.

Can't remember if you could give your friends priority or and chose if people could browse your filesth ough you could block your enemies from talking, downloading, and browsing..

Take a look at the old installers. finally found them;
http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=cutemx
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Postby Allied » Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:54 pm

@2pstudent, I will add ShareTV when I figure out the whole story.

CuteMX added. Tho I may have the date of birth wrong.
I found a good article on it,
http://www.dwightsilverman.com/cutemx.htm
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Postby LxBeast » Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:55 pm

@ Allied, CuteMX needs the [img] tags.

Edit: Much better. :wink:
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Postby Allied » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:25 pm

ShareTV added.
I've changed a few of the cause of death captions. I think "MPAA terrorism" is a good way to cover all the notices sent to isp's and all the sites that were afraid they were next.

Anyone have any thoughts on Grokster? They were a 2ng class for profit fasttrack network. But they went head to head with the MPAA.

[edit]
Added links to Slyck Articles about the shutdown and Wiki articles for the descriptons.
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Postby shellreef » Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:42 pm

Allied wrote:
shellreef wrote:No one remembers Audiogalaxy? :(

Never herd of it. But I googled and wiki'ed it and decided it deserves a spot. Thanks :D
Added.
Where did you get the fall 1998 date of birth? I can't find anything about it before January 1999.

Here: http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2003-01-31/music_feature.html:
Audiogalaxy started in 1998 as an ftp (file transfer protocol) search engine designed by Merhej, then a computer science student at UT. He and McArthur moved it to McArthur's house, then to the office on Sixth, and switched it over to its more well-known Web-accessed format. Mere months after Napster fell, Sheff witnessed the company's overnight metamorphosis from fledgling to file-sharing savior.
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Postby Allied » Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:06 pm

Audio Galaxy amended.
I put it in as December 1998 cause that article doesn't name the exact month. I don't want to make any of the entries look older than they really are.
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Postby cody » Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:13 pm

I'm suprised no one mentioned "Scour Exchange".
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Postby gregorio » Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:38 pm

I know a lot of clients (I admit they mainly connected to gnutella) that died - none of them except for one because of RIAA/MPAA pressure.

the original gnutella v0.56 client killed by AOL

Gnubile, qtella, gnutella2 ( http://gnutella2.sf.net - has been removed from sf.net and it predated Shareaza by almost a year ), Gnewtella, ToadNode, gnut, hagelslag, furi, mactella, swapper.NET ( actually folded recently because of the Grokster ruling ), qtraxmax ( infamous hammering client ), - there were a lot more but I think these are the ones that actually worked.
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Postby Allied » Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:10 pm

@gregorio
Which one was taken down by the RIAA?
I'll look into all of them, but the ones that had legal battles are first in line.

Added Gnutella. My entry could be better tho. I'll be updating it when I think of a better way to tell the story.

I got the picture from the way back machine,
http://web.archive.org/web/200008150617 ... tella.com/

Anyone know where to get gnutella v0.56?
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Postby gregorio » Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:34 am

swapper.NET but I don't know if it's gone for good or just laying low for a while.

in the meantime, I do have another one:
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Postby rsrikanth05 » Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:27 am

Hey can a Moderator make this a sticky.
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Postby HouseCrowd » Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:02 pm

It already IS!
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Postby bmh67wa » Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:08 pm

Allied wrote:Anyone know where to get gnutella v0.56?



Will this work?
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/953591690/1

It's 0.56a. I don't recall if there was any difference.
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Postby Allied » Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:16 pm

Already got it but thatnks,
http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12466
I was hoping to get a better Gnutella picture, but the program doesn't have any graphics.
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Postby Allied » Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:30 pm

AIMster/Madster added.

That Johnny Deep is a hero. Making AIM useful. Encrypting the data to protect the users. Then defying a court order to stop the transfer of copywritten material.

And he's a great actor :lol: .
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