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WinMX vs. Ares

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Postby Psycho Ced » Fri Dec 10, 2004 12:26 am

If your lucky... hmmm.... :roll: lets say: 2 to 3 years from now :?: :!: :?:
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Postby Mr. Alzheimer » Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:35 am

For some reason I cannot access www.winmx.com, but there was a thread about a new beta test in early November. I haven't heard any news since then.

I have to apology for my last post in this thread. It should of course be "In my opinion, it's ugly, and it gives me Kazaa flashbacks". I think WinMX looks better than Ares, I think a Porsche looks better than a BMW, and I think brunettes look better than blondes. Other people have different opinions, and I respect that.

@Vampmon: Ares Lite is made for computers not powerful enough to run Ares properly. It lacks a few features that, if you think about it isn't really all that necessary, like a media player and a few other things I can't remember that is included in the regular Ares. The program is smaller, and uses less cpu and memory, but still contains the opt-out adware. Otherwise, the Ares people would be making less money.

And for those of you who complain about the queues in WinMX: I kinda like them. It feels safe, if you know what I mean. I was using Ares for a while and very often, when it was looking for more sources for a file it would find a source, try to connect to it, and then, for no apparent reason, not download from the source. Almost as if the program was really unpatient. "This is taking to long, fuck this shit! I'll just try again later." I prefer queues.

Edit: Now the link works! :)
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Postby Ynhockey » Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:58 am

Ares by a long shot. It might not be excellent, but it's good for getting (mostly mainstream) things quickly and easily, whereas on WinMX it takes ages to download anything and it's better for rare stuff anyway (which DC is best for :D).
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Postby JaKo30 » Fri Dec 10, 2004 10:44 am

love em both to death. I go back and forth.
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Postby Mel_Smiley_VIP » Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:46 pm

I think winmx has mostly turned into the largest porn movie sharing network on Earth. Not for those aweful web site clips you find on Kazaa but for whole new and classic porn movies. Thats mostly what its good for and I guess its why I use it the most.
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Postby Bunny101 » Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:55 pm

Way to go Mel
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Postby pdavit » Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:19 pm

WinMX is by far the very best!

It may look initially less friendly graphics-wise but from a programmer's point
of view it is structured more professionally, flexibly, reliably and productively.
It is also lightweight in system resources.

But the strongest part of WinMX is it's community base. I've been using it for
nearly 5 years now and I never had a fake download or a virus infected one. This
is simply because it is used by experienced users who as a result have data of
higher quality and security. That is the reason I never wanted the WinMX
community to grow and become popular because that would have been the beginning
of the end!

Some minor flows of WinMX like queuing and the like can be mastered if you
manage to master WinMX itself and if you follow some basic non-software-specific
rules like, for example, logging on late at night, increase your
sharing speed and number of connections, be friendly with messaging etc.
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Postby DaBlade » Fri Dec 10, 2004 4:10 pm

pdavit wrote:WinMX is by far the very best!

It may look initially less friendly graphics-wise but from a programmer's point
of view it is structured more professionally, flexibly, reliably and productively.
It is also lightweight in system resources.

But the strongest part of WinMX is it's community base. I've been using it for
nearly 5 years now and I never had a fake download or a virus infected one. This
is simply because it is used by experienced users who as a result have data of
higher quality and security. That is the reason I never wanted the WinMX
community to grow and become popular because that would have been the beginning
of the end!

Some minor flows of WinMX like queuing and the like can be mastered if you
manage to master WinMX itself and if you follow some basic non-software-specific
rules like, for example, logging on late at night, increase your
sharing speed and number of connections, be friendly with messaging etc.

Kudos man! WinMX - For the people who want performance. Not point and click B.S.
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(BTW, I do constand hash searches as well to increase amount of sources)
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Postby Trev0r269 » Fri Dec 10, 2004 4:57 pm

Ares. Although the small search horizon really pisses me because I know how much content is actually on there. However, peerweb.org by itself really does make Ares a lot better due to the haslinks.
WinMX just never impressed me at all. I found the everything about the program and the network marginal. It is not bad by any means, but I still think Ares is better in terms of speed, gui, network content.
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Postby sn0w » Fri Dec 10, 2004 11:21 pm

winmx doesnt have a good variety of files. although i do have both.
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Postby SJTB » Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:26 pm

looks like Ares is winning........
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Postby iNaNimAtE » Sun Dec 12, 2004 1:40 pm

I have always had better luck with WinMX for finding small files.
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Postby HEAT84 » Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:11 am

All I want for Christmas is WinMx 4.0. :D
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Postby SJTB » Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:01 am

It would be nice wouldn't it if Frontcode had a big surprise and released 4.0 on Christmas
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Postby -KM- » Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:06 pm

SJTB wrote:It would be nice wouldn't it if Frontcode had a big surprise and released 4.0 on Christmas


i hope not, i'm releasing WCS on christmas, and that would completely fuck everything up :-P

naa, seriously... i doubt it somehow, they are only on beta tests for 3.54 and havent even started testing the promised new networks etc
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Postby Everlast » Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:26 am

100% Ares, its sexy, fast and simple.
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Postby Everlast » Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:36 am

pdavit wrote:WinMX is by far the very best!

It may look initially less friendly graphics-wise but from a programmer's point
of view it is structured more professionally, flexibly, reliably and productively.
It is also lightweight in system resources.

But the strongest part of WinMX is it's community base. I've been using it for
nearly 5 years now and I never had a fake download or a virus infected one. This
is simply because it is used by experienced users who as a result have data of
higher quality and security. That is the reason I never wanted the WinMX
community to grow and become popular because that would have been the beginning
of the end!

Some minor flows of WinMX like queuing and the like can be mastered if you
manage to master WinMX itself and if you follow some basic non-software-specific
rules like, for example, logging on late at night, increase your
sharing speed and number of connections, be friendly with messaging etc.


Its usually the more experianced users who upload viruses to the network, they make folders and paste the same file into them so it seems like it has more sources, So therefore Winmx could be more dangerous.

I have never received a virus through Ares.

For me, I know what to download and what is likely to have a virus, So i mainly worry about file corruption/fakes, availablity and the speed. Ares has great speeds, plenty of tv episodes, every single song ive wanted and i havent yet downloaded a corrupted or fake file(And ive been a Ares users for over a year, I think.)
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Postby DaBlade » Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:54 am

Everlast wrote:
pdavit wrote:WinMX is by far the very best!

It may look initially less friendly graphics-wise but from a programmer's point
of view it is structured more professionally, flexibly, reliably and productively.
It is also lightweight in system resources.

But the strongest part of WinMX is it's community base. I've been using it for
nearly 5 years now and I never had a fake download or a virus infected one. This
is simply because it is used by experienced users who as a result have data of
higher quality and security. That is the reason I never wanted the WinMX
community to grow and become popular because that would have been the beginning
of the end!

Some minor flows of WinMX like queuing and the like can be mastered if you
manage to master WinMX itself and if you follow some basic non-software-specific
rules like, for example, logging on late at night, increase your
sharing speed and number of connections, be friendly with messaging etc.


Its usually the more experianced users who upload viruses to the network, they make folders and paste the same file into them so it seems like it has more sources, So therefore Winmx could be more dangerous.

I have never received a virus through Ares.

For me, I know what to download and what is likely to have a virus, So i mainly worry about file corruption/fakes, availablity and the speed. Ares has great speeds, plenty of tv episodes, every single song ive wanted and i havent yet downloaded a corrupted or fake file(And ive been a Ares users for over a year, I think.)

I never got a virus via MX either. I have yet to see a corrupted file on MX, because the hashing method is so good.
The experienced users don't share viruses. In fact, I haven't seen anyone sharing anything that looks like viruses (loads of cracks or apps named like Nero 6.0 and are 400k or something like that. But do continue using Arse. We don't want anyone from the point-and-click generation spreading worthless crap and thinking he's smart on MX.
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Postby pdavit » Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:35 pm

Everlast wrote:Its usually the more experianced users who upload viruses to the network, they make folders and paste the same file into them so it seems like it has more sources, So therefore Winmx could be more dangerous.


More experienced users have better protection and higher data quality. Those
users you are referring to, do have the experience but are unethical on their
actions. They are practically not USERS of the community but ATTACKERS. So, if
your goal is to attack this can be on any network. It doesn't have to be on
a network comprising of experienced users. And even if this was true they (the
users) have better protection to counterstrike the attacks like firewalls,
updated antivirus and the like.

Using a high quality Hi-Fi doesn't mean that you are determined to annoy your
neighbours with extremely high volumes. That is not possible anyway since
you'll be using an analog tube-powered amplifier that tops at no more than
20 Watts but knows how to deliver sonic euphoria.
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Postby SJTB » Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:41 am

Well I just tried WinMX some more and I can safely say that for popular music files it is faster. But for rarer files, it is very slow or it won't DL whereas on Ares you can get good speeds no matter what the file is and it most always DL.
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Postby DaBlade » Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:59 am

I always get good speeds, even on rare files (remember having to balance the BW, use various tricks like hash-only searches etc..?)
WinMX isn't for the ones that are used point-and-click, but for the ones that wanna work for the pay, and get an extra bonus.
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Postby Everlast » Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:01 am

DaBlade wrote:I never got a virus via MX either. I have yet to see a corrupted file on MX, because the hashing method is so good.
The experienced users don't share viruses. In fact, I haven't seen anyone sharing anything that looks like viruses (loads of cracks or apps named like Nero 6.0 and are 400k or something like that. But do continue using Arse. We don't want anyone from the point-and-click generation spreading worthless crap and thinking he's smart on MX.


DaBlade calling me stupid makes you feel smarter? Let me just say this If you were "smarter" you'd realize if someone were to place a virus on the network they wouldnt name it trojan.exe and leave it, It would be in one of those crack files WinMX has plenty off... You think there hasnt got a virus on winmx? then you sir are the stupid one.
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Postby Everlast » Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:16 am

pdavit wrote:It doesn't have to be on
a network comprising of experienced users. And even if this was true they (the
users) have better protection to counterstrike the attacks like firewalls,
updated antivirus and the like.


"Firewalls" Winmx doesnt have the f2f technology limewire does, making it "slower".

(This isnt targeted at you pdavit)Im not trying to diss the network, I have tryed it and it wasnt as good as Ares; this is just my personal opinion, But you guys trying to tell me Winmx is the eleet network with the "smart" pro crowd are full of crap, Think about release groups and private servers which get the files first No way in hell will one of them drop there access to those servers just to be apart of winmx. :/
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Postby hexen » Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:18 am

*WinMX has a great community (subjective).
*Loads of rare music and movies (still! after all these years!)(subjective).
*The interface feels personal (subjective).
*It is light on resources (subjective).
*It has support for open nap.
*I grew up on it, and thereby feels like "home", just as the old napster-users like to trade over open nap servers for old time sakes(personal).
*I tried Ares, and I can understand DaBlade. I agree, it feels point-and-clickative(subjective).
*And I don't find anything unusual there, just like on gnutella or fasttrack(personal).
*A resource is always a plus, but I prefer the community of winmx. Lots of cool channels where you meet and trade opinions and files.(both objective and subjective)

->My vote is clearly going on WinMX, for personal reasons. I don't think anyone is stupid using Ares, but I do think it's stupid not to try it all, I sure have! (except grokster, then you are on your own pal! :lol: )
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Postby iNaNimAtE » Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:32 pm

hexen wrote:*WinMX has a great community (subjective).
*Loads of rare music and movies (still! after all these years!)(subjective).
*The interface feels personal (subjective).
*It is light on resources (subjective).
*It has support for open nap.
*I grew up on it, and thereby feels like "home", just as the old napster-users like to trade over open nap servers for old time sakes(personal).
*I tried Ares, and I can understand DaBlade. I agree, it feels point-and-clickative(subjective).
*And I don't find anything unusual there, just like on gnutella or fasttrack(personal).
*A resource is always a plus, but I prefer the community of winmx. Lots of cool channels where you meet and trade opinions and files.(both objective and subjective)

"Post subject: WinMX or Ares?" (Subjective.)

The whole topic is subjective anyway, as is the poll, so this is pretty much all personal opinions.
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