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Postby BlueThunder » Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:13 pm

I'm thinking about trying WinMX out, but I have a few questions before I even click to download.

1. Does it hash the entire file or just a small segment like FastTrack?

2. I heard you could download full folders like SoulSeek...is that true? If not, does it have any other methods of easy album downloading (zip/rar albums)?

3. Can you prevent people from browsing your shared files?

4. Is it still a good resource for rare and quality music?

Thanks to anyone who answers.
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Re: Some questions for the WinMX guys here

Postby ToM » Mon Jul 26, 2004 11:27 pm

BlueThunder wrote:I'm thinking about trying WinMX out, but I have a few questions before I even click to download.

1. Does it hash the entire file or just a small segment like FastTrack?

2. I heard you could download full folders like SoulSeek...is that true? If not, does it have any other methods of easy album downloading (zip/rar albums)?

3. Can you prevent people from browsing your shared files?

4. Is it still a good resource for rare and quality music?

Thanks to anyone who answers.


1. Yes it hashes properly.

2. I didn't think so, though I may be wrong.

3. Yep. (I think...don't call me a WinMX expert :)

4. Not compared to SoulSeek I'd say, but if you use it's OpenNap support via NapMX, you'll find a lot more rarer stuff.
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Postby Solomon » Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:43 am

1] Yes. Its not the most secure of hashings, though, and it could be broken. Havent seen any evidence of that yet though.

2] You can download an ALBW, but not a folderful of music.

3] Yes. Make your username extremely long, with letters and numbers. This is a bug in WinMX, so it only works if you are Secondary.

4] Like ToM said, yes if you use the Opennaps.
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Postby BlueThunder » Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:42 pm

Is there any idea how many users are on the WinMX network?
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Postby Ooble » Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:45 pm

Nope, but it's estimated at over a million. There's no sure way of knowing though.
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Postby BlueThunder » Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:58 pm

Ok, one more question. In the BETA page it says "Fragmented file support added" for the 3.60 beta...isn't that partial file sharing like eDonkey? It also says search coverage will be near 100% which will definitely be awesome. :D

I downloaded WinMX and I must say I should've tried it out a long time ago. ALBW's are nice and there's plenty of them(although the queues are brutal).
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Postby Ooble » Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:17 pm

Queues really piss me off too, but at least you'll get the stuff if you leave the PC on overnight (unlike eD2K where you have to leave it on for 2 weeks straight). And you're correct about the fragmented file sharing support thingy.
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Postby iNaNimAtE » Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:23 pm

Ooble wrote:Queues really piss me off too, but at least you'll get the stuff if you leave the PC on overnight (unlike eD2K where you have to leave it on for 2 weeks straight). And you're correct about the fragmented file sharing support thingy.

I've always wondered about that. How exactly is Frontcode going to resolve that queuing issue?
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Postby Ooble » Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:29 pm

I have no freakin' idea.
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Postby Solomon » Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:34 pm

If they implement something like the ed2k system, I hope they make it faster. Maybe somethign like a mini bittorrent swarm? If the speeds are going to be as abysmal then I might as well pack up and go home.
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Postby j_dogg » Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:56 pm

That would be quite interesting if WInMX implemented Horde...
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Postby BigWillyStyle42 » Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:59 pm

Honestly I'd rather see them remove the option to kick uploaders. Maybe I'm just spoiled on the eDonkey network, but I love that none of the clones have changed that behavior.
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Postby j_dogg » Thu Jul 29, 2004 12:06 am

Yes that option does leave quite a lot of room for abuse. While it can be good to have the ability to kick leecher's. It is one of the big causes for the 'file-trading' rather than 'file-sharing' attitude found on WinMX.
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Postby BigWillyStyle42 » Thu Jul 29, 2004 12:09 am

j_dogg wrote:Yes that option does leave quite a lot of room for abuse. While it can be good to have the ability to kick leecher's. It is one of the big causes for the 'file-trading' rather than 'file-sharing' attitude found on WinMX.

I remember 4 or 5 years ago I was at a friends house and he was using some filesharing client (can't remember anymore) that allowed you to kick uploaders. He got a real kick out of sitting there watching people and kicking them once they got to 99%. I think this was also one of the networks where you couldn't resume...
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Postby Ooble » Thu Jul 29, 2004 5:38 am

BigWillyStyle42 wrote:I remember 4 or 5 years ago I was at a friends house and he was using some filesharing client (can't remember anymore) that allowed you to kick uploaders. He got a real kick out of sitting there watching people and kicking them once they got to 99%. I think this was also one of the networks where you couldn't resume...

The phrase "Get a life" comes to mind...
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Postby Solomon » Thu Jul 29, 2004 6:18 am

IIRC, Frontcode threatened to remove the "start transfer" and "cancel" options from WinMX. I think that would be a very bad move. It would make WinMX very similar to every other network out there, and I prefer something that has unique features like that. The only other app Ive found that lets you trade is Filetopia, but I havent fully explored it yet.
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Postby DaBlade » Thu Jul 29, 2004 6:27 am

The_Kid wrote:IIRC, Frontcode threatened to remove the "start transfer" and "cancel" options from WinMX.

When did Kevin do that?
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Postby little_rabbit » Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:12 am

j_dogg wrote:Yes that option does leave quite a lot of room for abuse. While it can be good to have the ability to kick leecher's. It is one of the big causes for the 'file-trading' rather than 'file-sharing' attitude found on WinMX.


I totally agree with your opinion.
That, and perhaps the fact that searching is not very accurate : people have the feeling that they have amount of gold with their rare files :roll:
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Postby Solomon » Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:31 am

HaloFan!@WinMXFan! wrote:
The_Kid wrote:IIRC, Frontcode threatened to remove the "start transfer" and "cancel" options from WinMX.

When did Kevin do that?


If he did it, it would probably be in one of the interviews.
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