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MediaDefender Return To Flood WinMX Network

Postby Dazzle_2 » Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:46 pm

It seems after a few weeks of hiding in their air conditioned offices the good folks at MediaDefender are back flooding the WinMX network albeit with a single IP range (72.172.89.XX), It beggars belief these ppl dont seem to get the message that they are being watched 24/7, perhaps one day we should loop their own traffic back on them for fun :lol:

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Re: MediaDefender Return To Flood WinMX Network

Postby Dazzle_2 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:49 pm

[Update]
It seems they have suffered some sort of system failure or maybe their paymasters have stopped using them but once again we are seeing no MediaDefender activity on the network, most strange :o
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Re: MediaDefender Return To Flood WinMX Network

Postby GrymRpr » Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:41 pm

Tooo Funny if true...
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Re: MediaDefender Return To Flood WinMX Network

Postby zbeast » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:49 pm

Far as I know flooding any networks is considered a destructive action and
is against the Term of use of most Isp.

It's good seeing Media Defender still getting poned...
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Re: MediaDefender Return To Flood WinMX Network

Postby Fartingbob » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:57 pm

If they wanted to attack a single network, why winMX?
And who the hell would pay them to continue after how badly they screwed up?
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Re: MediaDefender Return To Flood WinMX Network

Postby Artie » Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:08 pm

I mainly use WinMX now after I try to get something on SoulSeek first.

WinMX has become a bit vulnerable though since the main program isn't being updated anymore, hence MD feels like they can attack that network with the best flooding results. So I guess they want to show the industry that they're still tough or something. Idiots. MD gambled, and they already lost. I live in Vegas, so I should know.

And it goes without saying that MD couldn't give a rat's ass whether media files are being traded or not. As long as the money is good, they'll do what the industry wants. Can't stand little punks like that who try to become rich by thinking they're IT-savvy. I actually dislike MD more than I dislike the **AA. At least the **AA are creating media products, even if it's through the actual artists. MD is just a thorn in everyone's side, including the **AA, as the pre-fuck up Emails have shown.

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Re: MediaDefender Return To Flood WinMX Network

Postby Scyre » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:54 am

It's funny you mention that MD think they can have better results flooding WinMX...

The truth of the matter is they had a harder time flooding the MX Network due to the blocking system developed by KM and maintained by WinMXWorld. Many of their emails even gave that away.

I think in truth, Kevin made such a good design when he created WinMX that even now that it hasn't been updated in a long time, they still struggle with flooding it.

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Re: MediaDefender Return To Flood WinMX Network

Postby Dazzle_2 » Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:06 am

[update]

Seems someone finally found the "ON" button :lol:

Today they have returned on the same single IP range and are flooding, the new movies stardust, deck the halls, along with Fergie and Amy Winehouse and many of their usual contracted atists such as Maroon 5.

Must try harder guys, your systems a joke :howdy:
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Re: MediaDefender Return To Flood WinMX Network

Postby IceCube » Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:41 am

Dazzle_2 wrote:[update]

Seems someone finally found the "ON" button :lol:


Uh oh... sounds like they're getting smarter if they progressed this far! :shock: ;)

Dazzle_2 wrote:Today they have returned on the same single IP range and are flooding, the new movies stardust, deck the halls, along with Fergie and Amy Winehouse and many of their usual contracted atists such as Maroon 5.

Must try harder guys, your systems a joke :howdy:


What range would that be? Are they using one of the ranges already found in the email leak or did they get a clue and got a new range?
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Re: MediaDefender Return To Flood WinMX Network

Postby Dazzle_2 » Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:15 pm

Hi IceCube, Its the same range as mentioned at the start of the topic (72.172.89.XX), never even checked the "borrowed" emails as they dont figure in our tracking work, you have to laugh at this company, not only can they not find new IP's to flood from as soon as they do its blocked, and with more folks such as mxpie joining in the blocking they are finding it futile to put any real effort in.
Macrovision is still running strong on their system but likewise each flooding company hits the same limitation thats built into the protocol and makes detecting and blocking them them childsplay once you know their weakness, I,m still very suprised other networks dont operate a similar detection system based on their own protocols, the money saved by desiting from this wasted effort could be spent on subsidising a lowering of the price of their offerings :lol:
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Re: MediaDefender Return To Flood WinMX Network

Postby ..Ñøßߥ.. » Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:44 am

I think it unlikely they would offset any money saved against lowering prices, lol. I was listening to an article on the radio the other day regarding the move by Radiohead to offer their new album on a pay what you wish basis. Seems Radiohead are making around £4 per album download, perhaps to some that might not seem much, but they have already sold over 1million downloads, thats £4m with little costs incurred, WAY more than Radiohead would have made if they sold 1m cd's via a record company.

I wonder what they will end up making in total? If its good, i could see other well known acts following suit, the only downside i see is that it would be tougher for the not so well known acts to gain the same level of publicity. I would say though, with a little self marketing and perhaps the release of a few tracks free into the p2p networks, lesser known artists could build a name for themseleves too.

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Re: MediaDefender Return To Flood WinMX Network

Postby Mel_Smiley_VIP » Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:50 am

I find it weird how they flood the network with fake porno too. Why??????
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Re: MediaDefender Return To Flood WinMX Network

Postby qm2003 » Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:02 am

Maybe because in some sexually repressed societies pornos are considered a tabu and can be used to destroy peoples reputation ?
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Re: MediaDefender Return To Flood WinMX Network

Postby IceCube » Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:11 pm

..Ñøßߥ.. wrote:I think it unlikely they would offset any money saved against lowering prices, lol. I was listening to an article on the radio the other day regarding the move by Radiohead to offer their new album on a pay what you wish basis. Seems Radiohead are making around £4 per album download, perhaps to some that might not seem much, but they have already sold over 1million downloads, thats £4m with little costs incurred, WAY more than Radiohead would have made if they sold 1m cd's via a record company.

I wonder what they will end up making in total? If its good, i could see other well known acts following suit, the only downside i see is that it would be tougher for the not so well known acts to gain the same level of publicity. I would say though, with a little self marketing and perhaps the release of a few tracks free into the p2p networks, lesser known artists could build a name for themseleves too.

The days of the Riaa affiliated middle men are numbered. :toast:


Oh, I've already known this and have been doing this since the beginning of this year. New artists simply want to actually be known and the internet is THE way to do this. :toast:
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Re: MediaDefender Return To Flood WinMX Network

Postby Dazzle_2 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:19 pm

Sorry if anyone is offended about bumping this old thread up, it is with regard to the exact same topic though so I hope no one will be too annoyed at not feeling like they are in a time warp :lol:

Last week we saw some strange activity with how the network is being flooded, first of all the amount of fake file listings actually being injected into the system plummeted to a record low, also at this time we saw some strange searching activity from a small subset of IP's, searches where being made for one and two character search terms such as "b" or "z' " I suspect this was to maximise query results and gain some insight into the size of the network.

They have now stopped those style of searches and seem to have added a new group of artists to their "protection lists" , from about 40 flooded results for some of the given terms we are back to a full on 1000+ fake results, all still operating from the same IP's as before, is this a time of contract renewals perhaps ?

I,m posting this in the belief others will be experiencing the same sort of activity on other networks and to let Randy know we are watching his every move as usual :wink:
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Re: MediaDefender Return To Flood WinMX Network

Postby MrFredPFL » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:54 pm

no problem, dazzle. some posts and threads never get old :)
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