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Can you " Overload " eMule?

Postby avalon warrior » Wed May 06, 2009 9:05 am

I have been using eMule for years with no problems.

I have almost 2500 files in cue and in the transfer tab none of them are download.

They are all in the " Waiting " mode...

I find this odd because I would think there would be a lot more active downloads.

I have a good Internet connection MAX 10 aka 10 mbps and my eMule has a HIGH ID

anyone know what is going on?

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Re: Can you " Overload " eMule?

Postby Lee1001 » Wed May 06, 2009 9:44 am

All the good servers are gone,only one reasonable one left is eDonkey 2
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Re: Can you " Overload " eMule?

Postby Overnet User » Wed May 06, 2009 11:19 am

http://ocbmaurice.dyndns.org/index.html

http://gruk.org/list.php

for the most servers list (safe) see this post though:
Questions about eDonkey2000/Kad/eMule
Right after first post from SlickTom

should help out some, and also it sound like you may have "too many connections". Try removing some files from dl or put them on stop mode to help clear the connections and also see if you have a file that is not finished or whatnot but has many sources like 0/89 . It may be a dead file which is taking up connections that you could use to dl instead. I have never heard of someone dl almost 2500 files in cue and in the transfer tab.

You say that you have been using emule for years, it seems that by this time, you should have known how to work it. Maybe you could give us specs such as max connections, etc.
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Re: Can you " Overload " eMule?

Postby Hypnotoad » Wed May 06, 2009 11:21 am

A long time ago I used to moderate the ED2K board help forum, and your question takes me right back :D

I remember (if memory serves me correctly)that the "recommended" max DL's for eDonkey or eMule was 60-100..don't know if things have changed recently with newer emule releases..I haven't really been keeping track. Leave just 100 transfers going and see if things pick up. The fact that there seems to be only 1 decent server left won't help for finding sources either. Do you have a low or high ID?

Obviously the best place to answer this question would be http://www.emule-project.net
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Re: Can you " Overload " eMule?

Postby MrFredPFL » Wed May 06, 2009 11:34 am

and my eMule has a HIGH ID


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Re: Can you " Overload " eMule?

Postby Hypnotoad » Wed May 06, 2009 12:43 pm

Bugger ;)
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Re: Can you " Overload " eMule?

Postby MrFredPFL » Wed May 06, 2009 1:42 pm

:lol:

best ending to a TV episode ever, btw.

Michael Palin wrote:Nobody expects the... oh BUGGER!


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Re: Can you " Overload " eMule?

Postby zbeast » Wed May 06, 2009 2:30 pm

Things that will slow the "Mule" down.

1) If you have a dynamic ip - ie :nat connection to the internet.
That can slow you down because you'll not be able to connect to other nat users.

2) Failing to not make use of the "Kad" network.
kad as you should know is a very popular network people seem to be making more use of it
over the edonkey network.
You really need to make sure the status of your kad network is not firewalled.

3) not all eD2K Server's are the same.
You need to make sure the ed2k servers that your connecting to index all file type.
Some limit the total number of files they will show you have for sharing.
some block indexing of music and movies, some are just fake server's that do nothing.
Some servers are so small they only have 10000 files indexed.
This reduces your ability to ever see another use with any of the files your looking for.

4) sometimes the file you looking for you'll never get.. thats just life.
I look at the list of files I have on que for download. Click on the search button
the right click on the title bar and add the tab "Seen Complete"
If you see "never" on any of the files you want to download
just delete that file. You'll never get it. find another source for the file.
Also make sure that the file your trying to down load has ever been seen complete"

5) Make sure your not running out of disk space..
if the file your trying to download is larger then your current free disk space emule will skip that file
and and try to download a smaller file. This will make it skip over again and again large files.

6) Not sharing enough.
not doing enough upload for every download. emule has a very fair but some times aggresave
tit for tat sharing. if you don't share uploads you get poor download performance.
Make a directory that as small but popular files in it.(porn works) share that, don't share your incomplete
files directory.

7) Not having a fresh ed2k server list.
if your list is full of crappy or dead servers this will impact your ability to download.
update your server list.

8) A watched pot never boils.
I have over 10,000 files on que, for ever 1 300 meg emule file that finishes downloading
I can usually download 4 to 10 300 meg torrents. There are simply less people sharing or
connected to share an emule file. Often there is only like 2 source for the file your looking for
on the emule network.

9) keep you mule up as long as possible.
emule unlike torrents has to search ever time for the file it looking for.
It looks at each file in the list performs a network and server search of other clients who
may have the file your looking for. it save the source ip of the file it seeking for only as long as it's
connected and turned on.. reboot your emule and that search process starts all over again.
In the case of torrent files.. that date is stored on the tracker. so as soon as you start up
the torrent client hits the tracker and all that search crap is not nessary.
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Re: Can you " Overload " eMule?

Postby MrFredPFL » Wed May 06, 2009 2:58 pm

not that it's important to the discussion, but dynamic IP and NAT are two very different things. an address can be a NATted address without being dynamic, and the reverse is true as well. i am on a dynamic IP which has nothing whatsoever to do with NAT. they are two separate things which sometimes overlap, and sometimes don't.
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Re: Can you " Overload " eMule?

Postby Overnet User » Wed May 06, 2009 9:33 pm

Hypnotoad wrote: The fact that there seems to be only 1 decent server left won't help for finding sources either. Do you have a low or high ID?



sharing kingdom 1-5, edonkey server2, usenext, many others that I do not have on priority high.
There are more than one good server on ed2k. There is probably about at least 12. (maybe more) There is 7 in the text above.

see here also: viewtopic.php?t=615
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Re: Can you " Overload " eMule?

Postby zbeast » Wed May 06, 2009 9:49 pm

Yes you are correct. you can have dynamic ip's with out nat's and you can have a static ip router
and your internal machines can be nat'ed to to the internet.

11) The type of connection you have to the internet can make a difference.
"OC3" oh ya... thats the juice your not very likely to get access to this level of connectivity.
But emule on a 3ghz computer with a connection to an oc3 is like hot.
LIke 40+ downloads at the same time at high speeds hot.

"T1" thats the top when it comes to file trading, transfer rates are symmetrical.
Good speeds and load delays... emule and most p2p software give preferance to higher speed
users.

"dsl" it's ok it's non symmetrical. the network can become segmented.
for some unknown reason you can't see all of the other emule users when using a dsl network.
I don't know if this is because of early time out because of the over all poor performance of dsl or other factors.

"Cable Internet" You can get higher speeds but you run the risk of getting more DMCA notices and low monthly
caps. I also see a little of the network segment affect.
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Re: Can you " Overload " eMule?

Postby Overnet User » Wed May 06, 2009 11:39 pm

ADSL, T-1, DS-1 North America 1.544 Mbps

OC-3? T3? T1? How fast are these? (#9068)

http://www.dslreports.com/faq/9068

In the city where I used to live everyone got 5 mb and then if you want to upgrade the next package was 9mb.
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Re: Can you " Overload " eMule?

Postby Frozen Mule » Tue May 12, 2009 10:25 am

zbeast wrote:Things that will slow the "Mule" down.
6) Not sharing enough.
not doing enough upload for every download. emule has a very fair but some times aggresave
tit for tat sharing. if you don't share uploads you get poor download performance.
Make a directory that as small but popular files in it.(porn works) share that, don't share your incomplete
files directory.


Isn't the credit system local, so that you will only get in front in the queue with the people you've uploaded to? If this is true, then it would be insane not to share the incomplete folder, actually if you want a file fast you should set it to high upload priority.
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Re: Can you " Overload " eMule?

Postby zbeast » Tue May 12, 2009 1:19 pm

Frozen Mule wrote:
zbeast wrote:Things that will slow the "Mule" down.
6) Not sharing enough.
not doing enough upload for every download. emule has a very fair but some times aggresave
tit for tat sharing. if you don't share uploads you get poor download performance.
Make a directory that as small but popular files in it.(porn works) share that, don't share your incomplete
files directory.


Isn't the credit system local, so that you will only get in front in the queue with the people you've uploaded to? If this is true, then it would be insane not to share the incomplete folder, actually if you want a file fast you should set it to high upload priority.


When your downloading a file your always uploading parts of that file to other peer's.
So "sharing your incomplete dir" is always happening.
So what I am trying to say is don't directly "re-share" your temp dir...
Under "options", directories, shared directories. This is handled automatically.

How many times have you clicked on a users who is downloading files from you to see
there "Viewed Shared Files" only to get back the contents of their "temp dir"

By the way this is a very bad practice to leave your "Shared Files" directory world viewable.
I have mine set as viewable by "friends"
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Re: Can you " Overload " eMule?

Postby Overnet User » Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:01 pm

Can this be moved to the emule forum and I will update it Wednesday. Thanks.
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Re: Can you " Overload " eMule?

Postby MrFredPFL » Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:17 pm

good call. :toast:
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