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Postby Uriel » Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:41 am

When will the RIAA get it through their collective thick skulls that the reasons they aren't making as much money as they think they should be are:

a)They pull some rediculous figure out of thier ass, and expect to have that revenue. (We should make $5 googol this year! Why? Because we say so) and if they don't make that much they blame P2P users.

b) They abuse thier customers, and make them never want to do business with them again. But if you don't buy thier crap, they sue you.

c) They keep churning out shitloads of crap that isn't even fit to be flung into the Sun much less ever played on a speaker.

d) They are old, bloated, archaic and need to get with the '90s, at the very least.

e) They are a bunch of egomaniacal prigs.
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Re: Karaoke zip files

Postby RichieJay » Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:23 am

witsend7 wrote:Can anyone recommend the best site for sharing karaoke zip files.


witsend 7, I have emailed a friend of mine who runs a karaoke file share site and he will get in touch with you!


Regarding the death of winmx; I'm still using it! When I left for work this morning I was still downloading and had 2 users uploading from me with another 87 users queueing up! This is down from the 100 odd that are usually queueing up, but I'm going to try to stick with it for as long as possible! I'm still able to search for files I need and queue them up and am often connected for in excess of 2 weeks at a time, so fingers crossed! (Just hope I don't get an automatic download from Windows or Mcafee that decides to restart my computer for me!!)

I've only been using winmx for about the past 3 years and it's done me proud! Have been advised to try limewire by various friends, which I'll probably tryout before I have to stop using winmx so that I can have a smooth transfer.
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Postby goldsnape » Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:33 am

well if winmx has ended which i really hope hasnt whats happend to all the chatrooms surely they cnt shut them down too as its a totally different thing and how would you access them all?

cheers for any info :?:
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Postby coleisgone » Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:41 am

goldsnape wrote:well if winmx has ended which i really hope hasnt whats happend to all the chatrooms surely they cnt shut them down too as its a totally different thing and how would you access them all?

cheers for any info :?:


that forum there have a recent channel list - hope it helps
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Postby 666rain999 » Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:44 am

They will be back. They always do, even suprnova is coming back lol. What can they do? it's a free world and there isn't shit they can do but lower the costs of everything to make us think it's cheap as hell and we buy it. Maybe they (riaa) should realize that were not slaves to you're bullshit games and movies that you people make, i mean is it really worth 40 bucks for a pc game? it's just not right lol. And this is what happened, and it should of happened a long time ago. But now it's here(P2P), and all the meth heads in cali FEAR.
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Re: WinMX PNP Network Mysteriously Ends Operations

Postby GreenOne » Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:59 am

Hi all...

I am also gutted that the glorious WinMx has died...:cry:


Personally, I didnt think it could...

But,,,isnt it possible to make a totally independent network, that is completely decentralized?

I understand about Host Caches etc....but,,host caches as far as I understand, only hold a number of IPs..if WinMx was coded slightly different..surely users acting as primary connections could pass these Ip addresses around the network, to other primary connections...therefore, the network wouldnt die as it has done..?

All it would take is for "x" number of users to remain online...and/or the extra code in WinMx to transfer the IP data to other Primary's for others to use....or is this just a magical uncompromisable network utopia that I'm dreaming of?

I dont know a great deal about networking, and I dont know a lot about coding either....but it seems possible to me...

OpenNap seems a great idea, but not comparable to the late great MX....

And for those who say to goto KaZaA??? What are you thinking?? As WinMx have stated all along...no BS. And thats the truth.!

Bit Torrents are amazing,,on the technical side and for results...but I just dont trust them as much..

Plus, the variety WinMx had was amazing, and the userbase was excellent, a lot of IT professionals use it, not just for mp3 or movies etc...but for technical tutorials/guides etc...

And if the Great Kevin is reading this, please come back with version 4....I've being awaiting it's release for so long...

And if whoever wrote WinMx is reading this (if not Kevin)..god bless you.! You have made millions of people very happy over the last few years...

Later dudes. :wink:
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Postby alormon » Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:32 am

I would also love to know where I can share Karaoke zip files....so sad right now :cry:
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Postby nigel123 » Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:09 pm

Don't be sad, you are one click away from getting reconnected to the winmx community, they have migrated,and you may share your karoake files there too with your own trusted client :D

http://www.gotnap.com/index.php?loc=list

You should be able to connect with your client to most of the servers in the list....Like many winmx users do already.
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Postby GreenOne » Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:27 pm

nigel123 wrote:Don't be sad, you are one click away from getting reconnected to the winmx community, they have migrated,and you may share your karoake files there too with your own trusted client :D

http://www.gotnap.com/index.php?loc=list

You should be able to connect with your client to most of the servers in the list....Like many winmx users do already.


Never heard of them....has anyone else ever used this software?
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Postby Elly » Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:54 pm



Never heard of them....has anyone else ever used this software?[/quote]

GotNap isn't software, it's the replacement for napigator.com which died april 2004. If you don't know what that was either, it's where napster servers showed their stats and serverhosts. GotNap has taken over that task.

Greetz,
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Postby GreenOne » Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:19 pm

Elly wrote:


Never heard of them....has anyone else ever used this software?


GotNap isn't software, it's the replacement for napigator.com which died april 2004. If you don't know what that was either, it's where napster servers showed their stats and serverhosts. GotNap has taken over that task.

Greetz,
Elly


Thanks Elly...

Is there as varied selection as there was on WinMx? And have all the WinMx users gone to OpenNap's like the ones in the link?

OpenNaps work fine, but for big files it's gonna be a struggle without the AFS....or multi-points for that matter...I know that other clients can multi-point..but I dont want another client [stamps feet]... :cry:
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Postby Elly » Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:35 pm

GreenOne wrote:Thanks Elly...

Is there as varied selection as there was on WinMx? And have all the WinMx users gone to OpenNap's like the ones in the link?

OpenNaps work fine, but for big files it's gonna be a struggle without the AFS....or multi-points for that matter...I know that other clients can multi-point..but I dont want another client [stamps feet]... :cry:


You can see for yourself and when your at it, check out the menu "client formats", you'll see that gotnap can generate a wsx file for you too.

There have been a lot of winmx users in our main room since the day winmx p2p shut down, filled our room with a LOT of questions. They managed to get on opennap but i'm sure that not all went to opennap. A lot prolly because they just don't know how and another part because they might not like opennap. There's a variaty of reasons and alternatives, so it is logical to think they spread out.

Greetz,
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Postby GreenOne » Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:04 pm

Elly wrote:
GreenOne wrote:Thanks Elly...

Is there as varied selection as there was on WinMx? And have all the WinMx users gone to OpenNap's like the ones in the link?

OpenNaps work fine, but for big files it's gonna be a struggle without the AFS....or multi-points for that matter...I know that other clients can multi-point..but I dont want another client [stamps feet]... :cry:


You can see for yourself and when your at it, check out the menu "client formats", you'll see that gotnap can generate a wsx file for you too.

There have been a lot of winmx users in our main room since the day winmx p2p shut down, filled our room with a LOT of questions. They managed to get on opennap but i'm sure that not all went to opennap. A lot prolly because they just don't know how and another part because they might not like opennap. There's a variaty of reasons and alternatives, so it is logical to think they spread out.

Greetz,
Elly


Thanks again..

I finish work in 10 mins so I can go home and give it a go.!!

I'll report back when I know more.

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Patch For WinMX - I tested... It works!!

Postby Digital_Vinyl » Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:46 pm

I installed this patch as instructed.
Re-booted WinMx...
"Connection Status" is Green!
Tested it out using "Beatles" in search...
Got 2294 hits!
Tried "Het Jude"...
Download completed and played.

Pass this along to all WinMx user sites.

Rock on... Digital_Vinyl.

http://www.vladd44.com/phpbb2/viewtopic ... 6688#26688

or direct link to patch... http://www.vladd44.com/primaryhosts.zip 8)
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Re: Patch For WinMX - I tested... It works!!

Postby IceCube » Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:32 pm

Digital_Vinyl wrote:"Beatles" in search...


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby GreenOne » Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:34 pm

ok....

Tried a couple of things...

The Host file from here didnt seem to work for me..

I'm running v.3.54 beta 4

It downloaded as a .dat file...and I noticed that the original Host file didnt have an extension...so I took it off...

And it didnt work...so I added the extension, still no good...I also tried flushing the DNS....still no good...

but I also found this Host file...
http://www.vladd44.com/primaryhosts.zip

And success at last.!!! :lol:
To quote the guy above...
Rock On!
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WinMx canceled....

Postby grxxxxx » Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:36 pm

Well like they didn't close the post oficces for delivering letters with anthracs, they also can't close WinMx.

The program used is not responsible for what is exchanged. It is not a program JUST for music transfers....

Never got MP3 from winmx myself. Anyway
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Postby Baygee » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:39 am

UiNeill wrote:Im gutted by this, as will my daughter be when she gets home from school.

At first i thought it was a fault with the program, so i uninstalled it.

Does anyone know if it can still be downloaded from somewhere as i wouldnt like to lose it just yet even tho it not up and running.
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Postby Baygee » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:50 am

:)
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Postby Baygee » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:56 am

;)
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Postby Xooph » Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:34 am

panos wrote:Both eMule and Metamachine's Overnet client (the one you refer to as ED2k) run finely in the system you have.

They don't. They are sluggish, and everything else on the machine is worse. I recall that one was more extreme than the other. i forget which.

no_dammagE wrote:> Now, i realise that 1GHz is slow by today's standards
That is just untrue! Everything depends on code. ... Remember Bull Goates say that we will never need more than 640K of RAM? He was true - and he is still relatively true, the amounts just raised. It just depends on the software code.

Well, Billy has no imagination; he's been proving that since well before he made that remark 24 years ago. Obviously there are legitimate uses for more than 640kB. (For example, editing a 500MB PCM waveform.) But of course, in these days of cheap memory, absurd amounts are lost to unnecessary bloat.

As for the slowness of my machine, i did say "by today's standards". And i also went on to say that it should be enough. So you're stressing the same point that i am, here. :) I began computering on a 1MHz machine. Those were the days. Programmers had no choice but to write tight code. Now, tight coders are a proud minority, who deserve high praise and intimate favours, for writing stuff that leaves as much of your computing resource as possible for other tasks.

no_dammagE wrote:There will be two things which will ultimatively eat 100% of your CPU: Vista with its bells and whistles you will never need ... and heavy-duty applications as scientific ones and computer games. eMule, eDonkey, BitTorrent never intended to require a lot of resources and they don't do. They all have only one heavy-duty operation: hashing. And the more files you have, the longer will be your first startup and the more data goes through your connection, the more data has to be hashed instantly.


A lot of hashing goes on in a heavily loaded ircd, but there are servers holding several thousand users, running on far lesser machines than mine. But then they're not running Windose. (I wish i knew offhand, what twisted.dal.net was running on (or was it tiscali) with its imfamous 80000 client load, that made it such a prime DDoS target.)

BitTorrent is demanding on my system, but it doesn't bring it to its knees. Nor does Filetopia (which i mainly use for occasional chat, as it's UI tends to annoy me). I can also push both of these down to idle priority, to further curb them. I don't specifically remember doing this with eM or eD, but there's no reason that i wouldn't. Though, now that i think of it, i may have still been running a window manager that i later pegged as the cause of a resource leak, that would kill my system within a week. Now i need to try it again. [gets that spatula ready to remove egg from face]

Vista has even less of a chance of touching my system than XP does.

no_dammagE wrote:I run a C400 - Ubuntu with bells and whistles turned on, XFCE, 3 XTerms, XMMS, XChat, Monodevelop, Konqueror. With all those apps on and active typing right now - 30-40% usage. Turned on Gtk-Gnutella. 45% usage.

Well, that's a real operating system. ;) I'm trapped in this cassette OS, untill i can work it out to have enough disk space to set up a serious fBSD install. (I boot FreeSBIE, occasionally, and it's a whole new machine. Of course, it doesn't even touch virtual memory—there isn't any!.)

Gnutella never gave me any trouble. But it was too primitive, when i used it.

no_dammagE wrote:I still didn't understand why you should need Chat, Media Player, a browser and several other things in ONE application. Do one job, but do it good. WinMX followed that and was good. ... The only thing which wasn't really needed [in my eyes] was the Chat function. Filebrowsing could be done via IRC, too Smile

IRC file-exchange mechanisms are some of the worst ducktape & haywire i've ever seen. Not only has CTCP gone out the window, but DCC send is garbage to begin with.

Yes WinMX is ggg for not including a lot of redundant crap. Swiss-army-knife apps are pointless in a multitasking environment.

But anyway, i think i've rambled enough. ;)
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Postby coleisgone » Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:31 am

Okay guys. Here's the scoop. If you have used the Winmx patch and are back on there, GET OFF. The RIAA is caching the ISP addresses.

Frontcode saw this coming in advance, and starting moving things about. The short of it is, is they are moving offshore. They are moving to the Cayman Islands, and when they are settled, there web page will be updated with a new version 3.5 of winmx, and will be active again.

Can't really reveal where i got the info, but it is already starting to slowly leak out. If you want to do a search on it, will probably start surfacing in the next couple of days. Just wanted everyone to be safe, and when i heard, and realized that some were starting to head back, realized i should say something.

Be patient, and things should right themselves in a timely fashion. Got a little uneasy when i realized they were back online already today, and thought something was fishy with that. Just want everyone to be safe, and not get hemmed up.

Will let you know if i find out anything else. In the end, its your choice, just be wise.


I was emailed this by a friend, she is a member of a winmx channel which posted this to their website, no idea the validity of it though but thought as it was in keeping with this thread and it might lead others with better sources to dig deeper concerning this and maybe debunk or validate the rumour i decided to post , it might just be crap though
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Postby Dazzle » Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:34 am

"Look, Look, the sky,s falling in" :lol:

They can log all the addresses they want, the same as all the flooders IPs like this can be posted.

On Systems - 38.113.214.0 - 38.113.214.255
Beyond The Network America - 63.216.0.0 - 63.223.255.255
Fuzion Colo - 72.35.224.0 - 72.35.239.255
Globix Corporation - 204.193.128.0 - 204.193.159.255
Globix Corporation - 209.10.143.0 - 209.10.143.255
Globix Corporation - 209.11.134.0 - 209.11.134.255
Globix Corporation - 209.195.58.0 - 209.195.58.255
Globix SpA. Country Italy - 212.71.224.0 - 212.71.255.255
X Works (aka) Globix Corporation - 213.219.9.192 - 213.219.9.255

These ones are fixed IPs hidden amongst the others :roll:

Covad Communications 66.166.198.203
Covad Communications 67.101.77.191
Covad Communications 68.165.91.118
DSL Net 64.248.57.132
Sympatico 70.51.124.42
BtCentralplus 81.151.195.148
BtCentralPlus 81.156.180.20
BtCentralPlus 81.158.253.172
BtCentralPlus 86.134.204.87

They watch us we watch them, and theres more of us :wink:

Its really of little consequence if they have anyones IP as no one is breaking the law by speaking to each other in a chat room, no software has been hacked... So unless you know a new anti free-speech law ?

Heres a song for Cary and Dan, Cheers guys :lol:

HASH>a5c94680888433303adfb336a128ce35-2865828
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Postby A-v-S » Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:31 am

WinMX Host File Patcher :

http://hrb.nukysrealm.net/p2p/download.php?view.4

Have fun ;)
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http://www.p2pfs.tk : The Peer to Peer file sharing site
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Postby A-v-S » Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:14 am

WinMX HostPatcher , updated with the new hosts file
http://hrb.nukysrealm.net/p2p/download.php?view.11
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