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Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby ToM » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:38 pm

It seems the file sharing interwebs aren't quite the same - after much analysis with big playaz in the P2P scene like SlyckTom, JiMiThInG and jabaman42 I've come to the conclusion it's due to a distinct lack of drama on the forums.

So I thought a new thread was in order - a thread to reminisce on the good ol' days when file sharing forums were more entertaining than anything TV, radio, reality or the missus could ever possibly offer.

Trolls. The P2P forums have been filled with some of the best and worst of these types of beings over the years. Let's talk about the worst of the worst.

Here's a list of some great drama in no particular order:

1. I'd say the most drama in a short amount of time was created by the scammers at EarthStation 5 (aka ES5, ESV, Earthreactor, god only knows what else). "SharePro" had to be the lamest person on the Internet by a mile and got everyone, including myself riled up with his antics. This guy was unreal - he was so utterly stupid the thought that anyone could take him seriously was mind-boggling. Some of the best fun I had back in what must have been 2003 came from trolling those forums - I only wish I'd logged some of the stuff that went down because I could have sold that shit to Hollywood.

ES5 was one epic byte of drama after another - it was probably completely criminal but nonetheless I lost more sleep through laughter than I did of fear (death threats were common place back then!)

2. Then we have the Slyck / P2PForums / UniteTheCows / Everyone else Vs. ZeroPaid drama. Every site disliked Zeropaid for one reason or another - it was pretty lame, but out of the lameness came some absolutely classic forum drama. One army Vs. another - aliases created to troll one anothers forums, capital letters galore, you name it. I seem to remember getting a few fake stories put on ZP's homepage for the lulz - again, this was the kind of stuff that would have made for great TV in the future, if only it'd had been logged and stored away.

ES5 was the common goal which united everyone together to take on a true evil and put our differences aside, at least temporarily, until another rainy day.

3. In-fighting. Oh this was the stuff - UTC was notorious for this. Who was a friend or foe? You never knew until it was too late - you wake up at 3pm to find your best friends just had cyberbabies with someone you were really into and really thought was female, this time.

4. IRC. One could assume IRC was created for chat, but one would be an idiot to assume so. IRC was created for one thing - endless cycles of trolling, tears and heartbreak. IRC, particularly P2PChat, became a hive for some of the notorious names found on some of the best forums the Internet has seen. So much drama went down on here, particularly in a super-secret '#1337', a channel not on any lists but so notorious it had a whole server talking and people attempting to hijack it on a daily basis just to see what went down inside. This was a place where P2P development met P2P trolls, and what a party it was.

Ah, I'm getting tired and wondering why I'm typing this so I'll leave it at that and await more input.

This could well develop into a news story - Slyck needs an emotional P2P wrapup as the year ends, so any ideas posted here could well go down in history.

Raise a glass to the P2P community that once was. Back in the day we may have taken all of the above stuff very seriously, but I'm glad for it. I had one hell of a lot of fun back then & made some great friends along the way. :toast:
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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby jabaman42 » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:44 pm

gunny_snipes anyone?
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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby ToM » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:50 pm

jabaman42 wrote:gunny_snipes anyone?


looooooooooool

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... nny+snipes

That pansy was behind plenty of in-drama. Def one of the lamest people I've come across on the 'net - last I heard he was burried alive under grab_grab_the_haddock's patio, but that may have just been induendo.
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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby ToM » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:03 pm

JiMiThInG
jabaman42
grab_grab_the_haddock
Skittles_Goddess
Intimidated
ShareLive
DB9
Roadblock
Anyone from #1337 on P2PChat (it doesn't exist anymore)
Pablo Soto
Drake
Simon Moon
Michael Stokes (The guy behind Netris, what else)
Anyone on MP2P, Shareaza and many, many other development teams
Vinnie from Bearshare
ShareReactor
Scratch
SlyckTom
Gunny_Snipes
Ray
random_nut
MoonMan
Renegade
IRPigs on P2PChat
ES5
Any vapourware that made lots of promises
Jade
Girls on the internet
Any admins/mods from the old Slyck/UTC/P2PForums/napjunk

Whether good or bad - you created plenty of drama and I dedicate this post to you. :loveyou:
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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby TorrentMama » Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:16 pm

2 infamous words in p2p history: Media Defender

Talk about drama, the Media Defenders leak was epic.
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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby bmh67wa » Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:08 am

What was the name of that one stupid attention whore bitch that messed up things here for awhile? Katrina or something like that?
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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby Fartingbob » Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:35 am

bmh67wa wrote:What was the name of that one stupid attention whore bitch that messed up things here for awhile?
Housecrowd? :lol:
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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby HouseCrowd » Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:21 am

:shock:


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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby ToM » Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:39 am

bmh67wa wrote:What was the name of that one stupid attention whore bitch that messed up things here for awhile? Katrina or something like that?


Ohhh yeah, I seem to remember that. It was pretty recent right? I don't think I was posting much so missed a lot of that story but from what I could tell it was pretty funny, got a lot of people riled up.

Katrina Lovely I think?

Can anyone narate this tale in a way which causes us to think and perhaps teaches us a few morals?
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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby ToM » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:00 am

And damn, P2P was at such a peak back in like 2002/3, nobody was really confined to one network and you'd (or at least I'd) check the news, forums etc. every day to see which new developments had occured. It was a great learning experience and there was a massive sense of involvement. Now everyone, and I mean everyone is on torrents - even if you use usenet you still use torrents, even if you work for the RIAA you use torrents. This isn't a bad thing, though nothing ever changes now. Things have gone very stale and P2P isn't what it once was... There's nothing new happening, nothing groundbreaking and no REAL discussion. Before, this was a craze that everyone wanted to be involved with, no matter how stupid you sounded while putting your point across.

There were fanboys for every network and client out there and the chaos that went down was bigger than a Xbox 360 Vs. PS3 thread could ever hope for. Take Gnutella Vs. Gnutella 2 - Shareaza really trolled everyone and it was fantastic. Who cares what you thought of G1/G2 - thank god it happened, because it was hilarious.

Site Vs. Site - great rivalry in every community which just spurred everyone on to essentially achieve the same thing.

Now we have businesses selling music on the Internet. Businesses. Not scammers (Kazaa Gold). Great - finally people are starting to wake up and develop ways of providing us with digital downloads 'legally', except WHAT A BUZZ KILL. "Downloading" or "sharing" no longer inherits the same sense of pride that it once did, and doesn't feel anything like it used to. I don't feel like I'm taking on the man anymore by leaving a client running 24/7 - hell, I sometimes even switch my computer off at night.

There would have been a time where a thread like this would have ended in 1000 replies, usually along the lines of "FUCK U!" and "DIE! ES5/ZP/GUNNY SNIPES WILL SAVE ME FROM MYSELF!" and eventually closed, only to be reopened under another alias on another site.

...Memories!
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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby carcassfan » Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:20 pm

bmh67wa wrote:What was the name of that one stupid attention whore bitch that messed up things here for awhile? Katrina or something like that?

:lookup: :lookup:

wasnt her dad going to sue us or something? she liked me...
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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby ToM » Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:21 pm

carcassfan wrote:
bmh67wa wrote:What was the name of that one stupid attention whore bitch that messed up things here for awhile? Katrina or something like that?

:lookup: :lookup:

wasnt her dad going to sue us or something? she liked me...


Sounds awesome - also sounds like 'she' wasn't really a she at all. :toast:

Can I say this or are there still pending legal issues?

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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby jabaman42 » Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:17 pm

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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby ToM » Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:19 am



Sweet - those little graphics were second to none. Pablo had a great thing going on there, no doubt about it.

Like you said on Dating4exFilesharingSoliderz or whatever system we use to communicate these days - forum discussion has kind of died out now and it's all been replaced with no-substance gibberish on blogs and in torrent site comments. There's no sense of involvement anymore - the most profound and controversial discussion you're likely to read now is "aXXo is a faggot", followed by "HE RULEZ. DIS WORKS 110% I DOWNLOADED 5 COPIES 4 MY FAMILY LOL XMAS SORTED"

You know, I think that's one of the reasons for the bitterness towards ZP at the beginning - their news comment system was the equivalent to blogs of today. Did they really see the future before us? Gawd damn.

Everything was cutting edge those few years ago. There was so much to it all, we had new stuff being released every week which could change the way we share files (and fight the system) in an instant, then we had companies releasing semi-decent software that was riddled with ads but we had the likes of dr. damn (whatever happened to that name?), Intimidated and the crew on the line defending freedom!

I got 500 downloads


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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby SlyckTom » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:01 pm

Remember Diet Kazaa? Now THAT was innovation ;)

I loved that Blubster website. That type of community was second to none.

Oh...who was the author of Kazaa Lite? (edit: nm...random nut...)

Unfortunately, ToM, that P2P community really doesn't exist any more. I'm sure there are pockets here and there, but as far as the old unified community goes....I think most have moved on with life I'm afraid.

Although I'm always down with bringing back the old IRC channel :D

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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby ToM » Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:39 pm

SlyckTom wrote:Remember Diet Kazaa? Now THAT was innovation ;)


LOL, nice guy - 'Chip'. Another name that hasn't been seen around for an eternity. Remember when Sharman Networks sent lawyers after him?

Oh...who was the author of Kazaa Lite? (edit: nm...random nut...)


I wonder if SharePro ever got him? :)

Unfortunately, ToM, that P2P community really doesn't exist any more. I'm sure there are pockets here and there, but as far as the old unified community goes....I think most have moved on with life I'm afraid.


I reckon so too. I'm not bitter about things 'not being the way they were', I've moved on too. People often get stuck remembering the good ol' days of what they enjoy and never see beyond them, but I'm happy remembering what used to be and just getting on with it.

I reckon there are ways of triggering discussion but you'd have to get more polictical and controversial as the days of discussing new ideas and testing new p2p software is over.

Although I'm always down with bringing back the old IRC channel :D


There's a thought... ;)

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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby JiMiThInG » Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:36 am

Wow talk about bringing old memories. I remember when on Earthreactors front page I was 3rd on there fuck you list behind only the RIAA and MPAA...I think slycktom was high on that list too. Those where the golden days of p2p community. The only thing that even comes close today is the bt private sites..
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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby SlyckChuck » Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:42 pm

The good thing about trolls is they go away when no one pays them any attention.

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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby Rezo » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:56 am

I am a legendary troll of the filesharing community. Probably most famous p2p troll on irc. Definately had tons of fun, there's nothing else like it. Actually, I wrote a memoir you can find on www.unkn0wn.ws called "memoir of Rezo" in a similar reminiscent rant. '03 was wild, but so was 1995. It's all relative, but yeah man, if I didn't have this shit some years, who knows what building or who's house I would have jumped off.
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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby Monkee Of Evil » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:36 pm

legendary trolls indeed.

My favorite fiasco was when some electronica artist named Saphirecut sent a DMCA notice to SoulSeek's ISP. People went bonkers trying to figure out what happened, then Nir posted a notice on my forum speaking about the DMCA, etc.. the slashdot-like effect of it crashed my server and corrupted my db. lol
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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby Monkee Of Evil » Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:18 pm

and another thing, imo, the private-site invitation swapping practice in bit torrent culture killed the community as we are currently discussing. I blame those who facilitate this practice.
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Postby chainmail » Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:03 am

I was looking at the new Shareactor forum, and the name of one of the admins seemed familiar. Then here, i saw mention of Earth Station Five. Then I remembered. There was a guy who was making the rounds on gaming forums a few years ago, talking up this thing called Earth Station 5. Like a traveling salesman who wouldn't take his foot out of the doorway. An admin on Sharereactor has the same name. Does anyone remember a DCJoeDog?
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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby ToM » Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:21 pm

Monkee Of Evil wrote:legendary trolls indeed.

My favorite fiasco was when some electronica artist named Saphirecut sent a DMCA notice to SoulSeek's ISP. People went bonkers trying to figure out what happened, then Nir posted a notice on my forum speaking about the DMCA, etc.. the slashdot-like effect of it crashed my server and corrupted my db. lol


lol, I seem to remember that. I think the first time it really got my attention was when some unknown, lame, thick trance (which is highly sucky in itself imo) was a top download at ShareLive and elsewhere. Basically because everyone wanted to distribute it as far as possible and cause plenty of trouble while the slsk server was down.

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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby DepecheNode » Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:56 pm

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Re: Legendary trolls of the file sharing community

Postby mojo-ris-in » Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:27 am

Ah who forget Es5? Good times eh? I remember shutting down many a thread from those ass hats back in the day. SharePro and his "technical" guy FileHoover. Steve16 and Ras Kabir, oh and of course Michael Cohen. I also remember the world against zeropaid days too. I became a mod after that...lol I also remember when they accused the zp staff of being anti p2p really. I don't know if they were anti p2p or just playing both sides of the court.

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