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Innocent infringement defense may reduce damages to $200 per song file

Postby RayBeckerman » Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:50 pm

Story : http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2008/08/innocent-infringement-defe

In Maverick v. Harper, a San Antonio, Texas, case of which we were unaware until yesterday, the RIAA has been pursuing a college age defendant who admitted to having committed copyright infringement using the Kazaa program when she was 16 years old.

Although admitting copyright infringement, she asserted an innocent infringement defense under 17 USC 504(c)(2), which could reduce the statutory damages to $200 per infringement.

The RIAA argued that defendant could not qualify for 'innocent infringer' status, since CD's of the songs sold in stores have copyright notices.

The Court disagreed, and denied the RIAA's motion for summary judgment unless the RIAA agrees to accept $200 per infringement.


This could have a major impact, as even defendants who may have infringed copyright, but who were not aware that they were committing copyright infringement, can interpose this defense.
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Re: Innocent infringement defense may reduce damages to $200 per

Postby fjones » Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:05 pm

I don't see where (if) it mentions how many songs she was being sued for, but...

The RIAA argued that defendant could not qualify for 'innocent infringer' status, since CD's of the songs sold in stores have copyright notices.


Their argument is that out the person's door, X miles down the street, inside a store, there are CDs of the songs and upon careful examination we can find labels on them with a copyright notice. Hence, the person all the way out of the store, X miles away, inside the house at their computer should be able to psychicly read them?
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Re: Innocent infringement defense may reduce damages to $200 per

Postby RayBeckerman » Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:59 pm

fjones wrote:Their argument is that out the person's door, X miles down the street, inside a store, there are CDs of the songs and upon careful examination we can find labels on them with a copyright notice. Hence, the person all the way out of the store, X miles away, inside the house at their computer should be able to psychicly read them?



Yep.
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Re: Innocent infringement defense may reduce damages to $200 per

Postby craftycorner » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:30 am

Am I reading this wrong or are Judges beginning to smell a clue? :shock:
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Re: Innocent infringement defense may reduce damages to $200 per

Postby multivariable » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:38 am

Forgive me for being a party pooper, but I know I can't be the only one who suspects that those claims:

1: "she believed using KaZaA and similar products to be akin to listening to radio over the internet and did not know that the Recordings were being either downloaded or distributed"

2: "she did not have any understanding of copyright infringement"

are a load of bullshit.

Hope she gets away with it, though. :D
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Re: Innocent infringement defense may reduce damages to $200 per

Postby TorrentMama » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:22 am

:lookup:

seems a bit far fetched to think that she's not understand the simple upload/download sharing nature of K.

another thing... is there a statute of limitations? They investigated the sharing in 2004 but didn't sue until 2007, huh? that's just silly.

So here is who she downloaded: Michelle Branch, Ja Rule, Avril Lavigne, Counting Crows, Faith Hill, Indigo Girls, Counting Crows, Vanessa Carlton, Faith Hill, Madonna, Good Charlotte, Counting Crows, Jessica Simpson, Jennifer Lopez... kill me!
seems to me like she should be fined for poor taste, if anything.

and what about this 200/per song deal? has anyone argued actual damages? 200 is still excessive.
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Re: Innocent infringement defense may reduce damages to $200 per

Postby multivariable » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:26 am

TorrentMama wrote:So here is who she downloaded: Michelle Branch, Ja Rule, Avril Lavigne, Counting Crows, Faith Hill, Indigo Girls, Counting Crows, Vanessa Carlton, Faith Hill, Madonna, Good Charlotte, Counting Crows, Jessica Simpson, Jennifer Lopez...

Lock her up, throw away the key...
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Re: Innocent infringement defense may reduce damages to $200 per

Postby Golgo1 » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:41 am

how freaking old is this case???

I can reasonably believe she was unaware she was uploading music and thought it was like a radio, for the simple reason she was using Kazaa. This leads to possible conclusions

A: This was way back when Kazaa was popular and most people had even less a clue how file sharing worked or any legalities behind it

B: This was somewhat recent and she is clueless about filesharing because she was using Kazaa instead of ANYTHING more useful

C: It sounds like she was using the full Kazaa, not even Lite (or even shareaza) Therefore she must love spyware, therefore she is an idiot.

D: Maybe all of the above
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Re: Innocent infringement defense may reduce damages to $200 per

Postby craftycorner » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:41 am

The clueless are out there, still, even in this day and age. I bump across people who ask me what a virus is. I patiently explain and mentally ask them "What the blue peeping hell are you doing on the web!" :shock:
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Re: Innocent infringement defense may reduce damages to $200 per

Postby Paladwyn » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:06 am

craftycorner wrote:The clueless are out there, still, even in this day and age. I bump across people who ask me what a virus is. I patiently explain and mentally ask them "What the blue peeping hell are you doing on the web!" :shock:


This is the reason here why they should get rid of all this copyright crap on music, and make it all available...clueless people don't know the difference, it confuses them and makes them targets. They are the ones getting hit by this, and it's all becuase they don't know anything about the way it works. THey just wanna listen to music, and not deal with all the hassles.
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Re: Innocent infringement defense may reduce damages to $200 per

Postby craftycorner » Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:09 am

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